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		<title>An Introduction to Shismatic Groups within Mormonism</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Hamer and Newell Bringhurst compiled many essays highlighting major Mormon schismatic groups that trace their founding to Joseph Smith in their book titled Scattering of the Saints.   The book is a great read.  It goes into quite a bit of detail of the major groups, but if you want a more comprehensive listing of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Hamer and Newell Bringhurst compiled many essays highlighting major Mormon schismatic groups that trace their founding to Joseph Smith in their book titled <a href="http://www.johnwhitmerbooks.com/books/details_SOS.asp">Scattering of the Saints</a>.   The book is a great read.  It goes into quite a bit of detail of the major groups, but if you want a more comprehensive listing of Mormon Groups, Stephen Shields has a book listing approximately 400 schismatic group in his book <a href="http://divergentpaths.org/">Divergent Paths of the Restoration</a>.</p>
<p><span id="more-1178"></span>Each chapter in Scattering of the Saints is written by a different Mormon historian.  Just to give you a flavor of the book, I thought I would highlight the introduction today.  I’ll be highlighting a few of the essays from the book over the coming weeks.  In the introduction, Hamer and Bringhurst highlight a few of the lesser known schisms and unorthodox members as early as 1830, such as,  (all of these quote come from the introduction&#8211;the formatting is changed significantly, and quotes aren&#8217;t in the same order as the book.)</p>
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<li>Black Pete—an African American convert—was active among Smith’s Kirtland followers as ‘a self-styled revelator’ or ‘chief man’ and ‘sometimes seized with strange vagaries and odd conceits.’</li>
<li>Laura Hubble, ‘professed to be a prophetess of the Lord’</li>
<li>Wycam Clark who formed his own Pure Church of Christ</li>
<li>the self-proclaimed prophet John Noah</li>
<li>Four years later, James Colin Brewster, a precocious ten-year-old child claimed direct communication with the Angel Moroni and proceeded to write his own works of scripture—all of which led to his disfellowship and ultimate excommunication.<sup>5</sup></li>
<li>A more serious threat came in 1837 with the formation of the Church of Christ by Warren Parrish…Parrish brought into his organization a number of important dissidents, including three original members of Smith’s Council of the Twelve—specifically, brothers Luke S. and Lyman Johnson, along with John F. Boynton.</li>
<li>[George H. Hinkle], rejected Smith’s leadership, forming his own group “The Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, the Lamb’s Wife”—an organization that continued in existence over the next several years.<sup>8</sup></li>
<li>A second group fromed as a direct result of the Missouri Mormon War was the Alston Church, formed by Isaac Russell, and English convert.  Russell sought support from dissident Mormons who desired to remain in Missouri contrary to Joseph Smith’s directive to leave the state and settle in Illinois.<sup>9</sup></li>
<li>In March 1842, Olive H. Olney was disfellowshipped on charge of setting myself up “as a prophet. ”</li>
<li>Also in 1842, Francis Gladden Bishop asserted his own claims as a prophet</li>
<li>Two years later….William Law was joined by his brother, Wilson, along with [a group of others] set uo a rival church organization, the True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and began publication of their own newspaper, <em>The Nauvoo Expositor</em>.</li>
<li>The pace of schism and fragmentation accelerated in the wake of Joseph Smith’s death…Other important Mormons asserting alternate claims to Latter Day Saint leadership
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<li>Sidney Rigdon—last living member of the church’s First Presidency;</li>
<li>Lyman Wight—a member of the Council of the Twelve;</li>
<li>Alpheus Cutler—a close confidant to Smith and member of the secret Council of Fifty;</li>
<li>William McLellin—a former member of the Twelve;</li>
<li>Charles Blancher Thompson—an articulate early church pamphleteer;</li>
<li>and James Strang—a gifted charismatic leader who claimed prophetic powers not unlike those asserted by Joseph Smith himself.<sup>14</sup></li>
<li>The period of exceptional fragmentation drew to a close in 1860 with the formation of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (RLDS) under the leadership of Joseph Smith III.</li>
<li>The Church of Jesus Christ, was organized in 1862 by William Bickerton—a former leader in the defunct Church of Christ that Sidney Rigdon had organized in 1844.  At present, the Church of Jesus Christ, with headquarters in Monongahela, Pennsylvania is generally recognized as the third largest Mormon group.</li>
<li>A second denomination, now known as the church of Christ (Temple Lot), was organized in 1863 under the leadership of Granville Hedrick.</li>
<li>The Church of Jesus Christ of latter Day Saints or Church of the Firstborn was organized by Joseph Morris in 1861.</li>
<li>The Church of Zion, was formed in 1868, by a group of dissident Mormon intellectuals under the leadership of William S. Godbe, Elias L.T. Harrison and former LDS apostle Amason Mason Lyman.  These “Godbeites” (as they become known) proclaimed “spiritual manifestations and revelations” in opposition to certain policies in the LDS church, which they felt resulted from a lack of checks on Brigham Young’s power and authority.<sup>21</sup></li>
<li>Fundamentalist Mormonism developed in direct opposition to official LDS efforts to phase out plural marriage commencing with the Manifesto of 1890.<sup>22</sup></li>
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<p>Michael Quinn has calculated eight options or “legitimate methods of Mormon presidential succession” that emerged during this fragmentation period.<sup>15</sup> As a result, “no fewer than fifteen important groups emerged” following Joseph Smith’s death.<sup>16</sup></p></blockquote>
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<p>I quoted considerably from the introduction, and subsequent chapters deal with schisms within these groups already mentioned.  I found chapters on the Bickertonites, Strangites, and Fundamentalists especially interesting, and plan to highlight some more about them in future weeks.  I’ve discovered a number of break offs from the RLDS church as well, and there needs to be a term about “fundamentalist RLDS” groups that is distinct from Fundamentalist Mormons.  Did you have any idea there were so many groups?</p>
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		<title>Sunstone Recap 2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 05:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wanted to get this post up sooner, but I&#8217;ve been really busy correcting final exams.  I really enjoyed the last day of Sunstone, since I was able to attend all day, rather than a session here or there.  Don Bradley gave a presentation titled &#8220;Dating Fanny Alger&#8221;, a bit of a play on words. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to get this post up sooner, but I&#8217;ve been really busy correcting final exams.  I really enjoyed the last day of Sunstone, since I was able to attend all day, rather than a session here or there.  Don Bradley gave a presentation titled &#8220;Dating Fanny Alger&#8221;, a bit of a play on words.  I remember he gave a funny line to the effect of &#8220;By all accounts, she was hot!&#8221;  Anyway, Bradley tried to pin down when the &#8220;affair&#8221; happened.  Apparently, Emma discovered Joseph and Fanny late at night in the barn.  According to Bradley, Alger appeared pregnant.  Emma threw a fit, and threw Alger out of the house.  (Apparently Alger had been working as a sort of nanny.)</p>
<p><span id="more-1156"></span>The discovery of the relationship by Emma probably dates to the summer or fall of 1835.  Bradley recounted several people who have tried to pin down the date, and noted problems with each date.  Some authors have discussed an &#8220;embarrassing&#8221; incident of polygamy in August 1835.   Joseph left for Pontiac, Michigan possibly to avoid embarrassment for his role.  On Oct 14, 1835, Joseph describes &#8220;dealing with household issues&#8221;, possibly a reference to evict Fanny.  However, Mark Ashurst-Mcgee suggests this incident refers not to Fanny, but a problem with employees at the printing office.</p>
<p>Fanny left Kirtland in August or Sept 1836, so the incident must have occurred prior to that.  Bradley notes that dissenters condemned Joseph on July 24, and Joseph left for Salem, Massachusetts for a treasure trip the next day on July 25.  Bradley believes Joseph sent Fanny to Missouri at the same time.  William McLellin gave his famous quote about having &#8220;no confidence&#8221; in church leadership around this time as well.  Fanny soon married non-member Solomon Custer after just a 6 week courtship.  Bradley believes it may have been a cover of legitimacy if Fanny was indeed pregnant.</p>
<p>Following Bridget Jack Meyer&#8217;s wonderful presentation on Women priesthood holders in early Christianity earlier in the week, I thought Joshua Gillon&#8217;s presentation called &#8220;Mormon Women Had the Priesthood in 1843: Examining the Claims&#8221; might be interesting.  I was greatly disappointed.  Josh is a PhD candidate of philosophy at Princeton, having completed a BA at BYU.  His talk was nothing more than a rant against the church.  He mis-characterized Michael Quinn&#8217;s discussion of women and the priesthood.  He employed tedious grammar exercises to make his points, and finished off with an F-bomb to end his presentation.  It was definitely the worst presentation I have ever heard at Sunstone, though there was another terrible one later in the day.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t very excited to go the the panel called &#8220;Glenn Beck: Likely Mormon or Unlikely Mormon&#8221;, but there wasn&#8217;t anything else that sounded interesting at that time.  As I reviewed the list of panelists, I was looking forward to hearing Joanna Brooks of Mormon Matters, and David King Landrith of Mormon Mentality.  (I had met him earlier in the week.) Kathryn Hemingway, Eric Samuelson, and Robert Rees weren&#8217;t nearly so interesting as Joanna and David, though they all made good points.  Rees was the moderator and not a fan of Beck.  Landrith and Hemingway were supporters of Beck, while Brooks and Samuelson were not.</p>
<p>I really enjoyed Landrith&#8217;s presentation.  Landrith showed that Beck&#8217;s rhetoric is very similar to political discourse over the past 200 years.  Early founding fathers often compared each other to monarchists, and spoke about each other more harshly than Beck does of his opponents.  I thought it was an interesting presentation.  Brooks really wasn&#8217;t that antagonistic toward Beck.  She basically said we should ignore Beck because his ratings are going down and he knows it.  There is no need to feed into the frenzy&#8211;Beck will go away on his own.</p>
<p>Following lunch, I attended a fantastic presentation by Apostle Susan Skoor of the Community of Christ.  She discussed her personal faith journey, showing how she has moved among Fowler&#8217;s stages of faith.  Her talk was titled &#8220;Faith in the Midst of the Difficulties of Life.&#8221;  Baptized at age 8 into the RLDS church, she discussed losing her testimony in her 30s, nearly falling into atheism.  Receiving a blessing, and asked &#8220;Do you want to believe?&#8221;, as Alma says, she let this desire work in her.  She discussed her new found faith as a stage 5 person, and said she knew she was too selfish to reach stage 6.  As I listened to her story, I marveled at how open she was about her life&#8217;s journey.  I don&#8217;t think an LDS apostle would admit to losing faith as she did, and I don&#8217;t think an LDS apostle would discuss spirituality in such as &#8220;secular&#8221; way as she discussed Fowlers Faith Stage theory.  I was truly moved.</p>
<p>Clair Barrus discussed &#8220;Oliver Cowdery&#8217;s Rod of Nature.&#8221;  It was a bit too technical for me, but I know others enjoyed it.  Finally, I listened to a panel discuss &#8220;Men and the Priesthood: Taking on the Feminine.&#8221;  Tom Kimball discussed being an unorthodox Mormon.  His previous bishop did not want to let him baptize or ordain his children.  As the bishop got to know Tom better, he decided to allow it.  Tom has previously <a href="http://mormonstories.org/podcast/MormonStories-017-MormonStagesOfFaithPt3.mp3" target="_blank">discussed his story on Mormon Stories</a>.  Tom&#8217;s new bishop has taken a more hard line approach, and Tom&#8217;s boys have not progressed in the priesthood.  Tom compared his situation to the idea that women can&#8217;t ordain daughters in the LDS church as well.</p>
<p>Robin Linkart, President of the 6th Quorum of Seventy for the Community of Christ spoke next.  She gave an excellent presentation and discussed the new revelation in 1984 allowing women to hold the priesthood.  Many in the RLDS church broke off (they lost nearly 1/4 of their membership.)  She discussed the challenges the RLDS church went through, and her personal journey in the priesthood.  It was excellent.</p>
<p>Holly Welker spoke next.  She gave a rant that the priesthood should be abolished in the LDS church.  During Tom&#8217;s, Lisa&#8217;s, and the Q&amp;A session, she made faces of disbelief and disagreement.  Honestly I believe a 5th grader would have better behavior than she exhibited.  She was incredibly rude and unprofessional.  Her behavior was embarrassing.</p>
<p>Lisa Butterworth finished up the panel.  She started the blog at FeministMormonHousewives.  Being a feminist and an unorthodox Mormon, she was asked to speak in support of the idea of an all-male priesthood.  She did the best she could, but it was evident that she didn&#8217;t fully support the topic she was asked to address.</p>
<p>Overall, I enjoyed most of the sessions.  If you missed my first post on Sunstone, <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/08/06/hanging-out-with-apostles-at-sunstone/">click here</a>.  I&#8217;m not sure why I attended so many feminist presentations, but I guess they sounded the most interesting.  So what is your take on women and the priesthood?  Do you see it happening in the LDS church in the next 20-50 years?  Would you support or oppose such a move if the prophet received a revelation allowing women to hold the priesthood?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunstone has been going on since Wednesday here in Salt Lake City.  It ends tomorrow, and I thought I would give a few words about the conference.  I have been blogging at Mormon Matters for about a year and a half, and have never met any other bloggers here&#8230;.until this week!  It has been nice [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_1147" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Apostle-Paul-Savage.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1147" title="Apostle-Paul-Savage" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Apostle-Paul-Savage-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Apostle Paul Savage of the Church of Christ with Elijah Message</p></div>
<p>Sunstone has been going on since Wednesday here in Salt Lake City.  It ends tomorrow, and I thought I would give a few words about the conference.  I have been blogging at Mormon Matters for about a year and a half, and have never met any other bloggers here&#8230;.until this week!  It has been nice to nice BiV and Stephen Marsh.  I hope to meet others tomorrow.  It was also nice to meet with a few apostles.</p>
<p><span id="more-1145"></span>I met Paul Savage at the MHA convention in May.  Today at Sunstone he gave a presentation titled &#8220;Why Elijah (or John the Baptist) must come before Christ&#8217;s Return.  I wasn&#8217;t able to attend his presentation, but spoke with him for a few minutes.  I learned he is one of 6 apostles for his church, based in Independence, Missouri.  Their church believes apostles are the highest office in the church, and they believe that many people can be prophets.  He noted that the Ephesians 4:11 lists apostles before prophets, so apostles should be the top of the hierarchy.</p>
<blockquote><p>And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;</p></blockquote>
<p>It was fun talking to him.  I&#8217;ve been reading <a href="http://www.johnwhitmerbooks.com/books/details_SOS.asp">Scattering of the Saints</a> by John Hamer and Newell Bringhurst, and plan to talk more about Paul&#8217;s church in the future.  I also enjoyed meeting with Apostle Susan Skoor of the Community of Christ, formerly known as the RLDS church.  (I already have a photo of her on my previous post&#8211;<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/01/a-schismatic-end-to-the-mormon-history-association-meetings/">click here</a>.)  She is always extremely friendly, and a treat to meet.</p>
<div id="attachment_1148" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/CoC-Pres-Robin-Linkart.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1148" title="CoC-Pres-Robin-Linkart" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/CoC-Pres-Robin-Linkart-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">CoC President Robin Linkart of the 6th Quorum of Seventy</p></div>
<p>She introduced me to Robin Linkart, the President of the 6th Quorum of Seventy.  She lives in Colorado, and is in charge of missionary efforts in the western United States from the Canadian border to Mexico.  (Sorry the photos are out of focus&#8211;I guess my $40 camera is only worth what I paid for it.)</p>
<p>Mark Scherer, is the historian for the Community of Christ.  He gave an interesting presentation on the latest revelation to be canonized in the Community of Christ, section 164 of the Doctrine and Covenants.  He said the revelation covers 4 main topics:  (1) open communion, (2) open baptism (don&#8217;t have to be rebaptized to join the RLDS church anymore), (3) moral and ethical behavior (allows countries to decide if they want to allow same sex marriage), and (4) the RLDS strives to collaborate more with evangelical Christians.</p>
<div id="attachment_1149" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/CoC-Historian-Mark-Sherer.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1149" title="CoC-Historian-Mark-Scherer" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/CoC-Historian-Mark-Sherer-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">CoC Historian Mark Scherer</p></div>
<p>Bridget Jack Meyers, (aka &#8220;Jack&#8221;&#8211;she blogs at <a href="http://www.clobberblog.com/">Clobberblog</a>), gave a fascinating presentation called &#8220;Evidence for Women&#8217;s Priesthood in the Earliest Christianity.  She is a &#8220;never Mormon&#8221; that earned a BA degree from BYU and &#8220;seduced&#8221; (her words) a Mormon man there.  She is studying at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School.  She outlined various scriptures showing early women Christian leaders, including a woman by the name of Junia in Romans 16:7.  Jack says Junia was a female apostle, and quoted early Christian theologian John Chrysostum discussing her.  Early Christian theologian Origen discussed a female leader by the name of Phoebe.  Jack gave many other examples, and it certainly deserves a blog post or two to discuss her research.</p>
<p>Yesterday, I was able to attend <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/author/stephen-marsh/">Stephen Marsh</a>&#8217;s session called &#8220;How an Unpleasant Truth Can Be More Inspirational than a Pleasant Fiction.&#8221;  I learned that the session was based on his post from October, titled <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/10/22/the-stories-we-tell-2/">The Stories We Tell</a>.  Briefly, Stephen told the true story about his daughter standing up for a disabled classmate.  Often stories such as this end with a happy ending where everyone realizes that they shouldn&#8217;t tease a disabled person, but in Stephen&#8217;s story, his daughter becomes ostracized.  Often, we don&#8217;t have happy endings, and sometimes it is hard to understand why God doesn&#8217;t bless us for doing the right thing.  I also learned that Stephen has 5 daughters, but 3 of them have died, despite his prayers to have them live.  It was an interesting presentation.  Often we learn more from our trials than our triumphs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m excited to attend tomorrow.  If you&#8217;re in SLC, I encourage you to attend.  It&#8217;s at the Sheraton Hotel on 150 West 500 South.  If you attended, what sessions did you enjoy?  Do you have any questions about the sessions I attended?</p>
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		<title>The Mormon Myth about Alice Cooper</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;re Mormon, you&#8217;ve probably heard the myth that Alice Cooper was a Mormon.  Most of you have probably dismissed the myth as complete hogwash.  Well, it turns out there is an element of truth to the myth.  For example, his father&#8217;s middle name is Moroni and his grandfather was an apostle!  Yes it is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_1130" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/399px-Cooper_Alice_2007.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1130" title="399px-Cooper,_Alice_(2007)" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/399px-Cooper_Alice_2007-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Alice Cooper at the Scream Awards in 2007</p></div>
<p>If you&#8217;re Mormon, you&#8217;ve probably heard the myth that Alice Cooper was a Mormon.  Most of you have probably dismissed the myth as complete hogwash.  Well, it turns out there is an element of truth to the myth.  For example, his father&#8217;s middle name is Moroni and his grandfather was an apostle!  Yes it is true!</p>
<p><span id="more-1128"></span>Alice Cooper was born with the name Vincent Damon Furnier in Detroit, Michigan.  His  father was a preacher by the name of Ether Moroni Furnier for <a href="http://www.thechurchofjesuschrist.com/" target="_blank">The Church of Jesus Christ</a><span style="font-style: normal;">, based in Monongahela, Pennsylvania.  Cooper&#8217;s grandfather Thurman Sylvester Furnier served as an apostle for the church.  The church is also known as the Bickertonite church, and has roots with Sidney Rigdon.  According to Cooper&#8217;s biography, he was active in the  church until the age of 11 or 12.  His family moved to Phoenix, Arizona when he was about 16 years old.</span></p>
<p>So, I thought it might be nice to give some information about his church.  As you may remember, just prior to Joseph Smith&#8217;s death, he was running for President of the United States.  His Vice Presidential candidate was Sidney Rigdon.  The US Constitution prohibits the President and Vice President from residing in the same state, so Joseph sent Sidney on a mission to his home state of Pennsylvania to establish residency.  Rigdon settled near Pittsburgh (the place of his birth) when he received the news of Joseph&#8217;s death.  Rigdon was there just a few weeks.</p>
<p>Rigdon returned to Nauvoo with the rest of the apostles.  There was a special meeting on August 8, 1844.  I blogged about it previously when I discussed the Sidney Rigdon Biography I read.  Let me quote the stunning meeting again.</p>
<blockquote><p>As Assistant President of the Church, and also known as “Spokesman for the Church”, Sidney told Jedidiah Grant ‘that he felt prepared to claim “the Prophetic mantle” and that he would “now take his place at the head of the church, in spite of men or devils, at the risk of his life.’  Rigdon seems to have underestimated Brigham Young, who had succession ideas as well.  From page 338, “Rigdon was without question Young’s oratorical superior, but Young, never a passive observer, was more clever, ambitious, and politically astute.  Not content to let the mantle of leadership pass him by, he simply wrestled it away from Rigdon in mid-descent.”</p>
<p>On August 8, 1844, the saints met for what was supposed to be merely a prayer meeting.  From page 339,</p>
<blockquote><p>Hyde reported that Rigdon was just “about to ask for an expression of the people by vote; when lo! to his grief and mortification, [Brigham Young] stepped upon the stand… and with a word stayed all the proceedings of Mr. Rigdon.  Young, who later recalled the event in 1860, stated:  “[W]hen I went to meet Sidney  Rigdon on the ground I went alone, and was ready along to face and drive the dogs from the flock.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Anyway, most of you know that Rigdon and Young excommunicated each other.  Rigdon went back to Pittsburgh and started his own church.  In the appendix is a reference to the Bickertonites on page 473.</p>
<blockquote><p>Sidney’s Rigdon’s Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion disintegrated within a decade after his death.  And both the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints relegated him to footnote status when their official histories were written.  But the Church of Jesus Christ, a small sect organized in 1862 by William Bickerton, still venerates Rigdon.</p>
<p>Bickerton, an 1845 convert to Sidney Rigdon’s Church of Christ, found himself adrift after Rigdon’s failures in Pittsburgh and the Cumberland Valley.  For a brief period in the early 1850s Bickerton affiliated with a branch of the Utah Mormons at West Elizabeth, Pennsylvania, although he personally declared that “his testimony… is that the blessing he received came thru obedience to the restored Gospel in 1845 with Rigdon’s people.”</p>
<p>After the Utah church publicly announed its long-term practice of polygamy in 1852, Bickerton left that organization.  In 1854 he held a successful conference in West Elizabeth at which several persons were baptized.  By 1858 he had attained a following of nearly 100 persons and had organized them into branches in Wheeling, West Virginia; Pine Run, Allegheny; and Greenock, Pennsylvania.</p>
<p>In an 1859 conference Bickerton was acknowledged as a prophet by his followers.  Two years later he was sustained a “Prophet and President of the Church” with counselors Charles Brown and Beorge Barnes.  During a July 1862 conference at Greenock twelve apostles and a number of evangelists were ordained.  The church was officially organized during this conference although not legally incorporated until 10 June 1865.</p>
<p>The church, which maintains its world headquarters today in Monongahela, Pennsylvania, at last report numbered 10,000 members.  The current First Presidency is Dominic Thomas, Paul Palmieri, and Robert Watson.  The church is organized into seven districts in the U.S., and has missions in Canada, Mexico, Guatemala, Kenya, Nigeria, India, England, Italy, Holland, and Germany.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Bickertonite Church is the 3rd largest Mormon sect, behind the LDS Church and RLDS Church (known now as the Community of Christ.)  Alice Cooper&#8217;s grandfather was an apostle of this church.  I think it&#8217;s pretty safe to say that Cooper was raised with a pretty firm knowledge of the Book of Mormon.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard Cooper attends a Methodist Church, and an Assembly of God Church.  I don&#8217;t know if either of these rumors are true.  He has been interviewed and said,</p>
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<blockquote><p>Although he tends to shy away from speaking publicly of his faith, Cooper has confirmed in interviews that he is in fact a born again Christian.[Article in which Cooper speaks at some length about his faith and career][World Net Daily article in which Cooper speaks of his wish to shun so called celebrity Christianity] He has avoided so called “celebrity Christianity” because, as Cooper states himself: “It’s really easy to focus on Alice Cooper and not on Christ. I’m a rock singer. I’m nothing more than that. I’m not a philosopher. I consider myself low on the totem pole of knowledgeable Christians.[Interview with Radio Talk Show HostDrew Marshall] So, don’t look for answers from me”.[Cooper speaking in a a World Net Daily article]</p>
<p>When asked by the British Sunday Times newspaper in 2001 how a rebellious shock-rocker could be a Christian, Cooper is credited with providing this response “Drinking beer is easy. Trashing your hotel room is easy. But being a Christian, that’s a tough call. That’s real rebellion!”[Cooper's response to The Sunday Times is quoted in an online Good News magazine article dealing with well known rock musicians who have a Christian faith]</p></blockquote>
<p>So, what do you make of the Bickertonite&#8217;s most famous member?  I don&#8217;t believe Bickertonite&#8217;s like to call themselves &#8220;Mormons&#8221;, but they firmly believe in the Book of Mormon, so I think the label could apply in this case.  So no, Alice Cooper is not technically a Mormon, but I bet the rumors hold a bit more truth than you ever believed.  Am I right?</p>
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		<title>The Moral Panic Causes Trouble in Zion</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Haun&#8217;s Mill Massacre.  The Mountain Meadows Massacre. The Rwandan Genocide.   Ethnic Cleansing in Bosnia and Serbia.  How do such terrible atrocities happen?
Kenny Ballantine is in the process of producing a documentary called Trouble in Zion.  The documentary discusses the events leading up to the 1838 Mormon War in Missouri.  It highlights the Extermination [...]]]></description>
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<p>The Haun&#8217;s Mill Massacre.  The Mountain Meadows Massacre. The Rwandan Genocide.   Ethnic Cleansing in Bosnia and Serbia.  How do such terrible atrocities happen?</p>
<p>Kenny Ballantine is in the process of producing a documentary called <a href="http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Trouble-in-Zion/244083709320?ref=ts" target="_blank">Trouble in Zion</a>.  The documentary discusses the events leading up to the 1838 Mormon War in Missouri.  It highlights the Extermination Order and Haun&#8217;s Mill Massacre, as well as events leading up to these terrible events.  Kenny showed a pre-release version of the film at the Mormon History Association in Independence, Missouri in May, and he is also showing the film at <a href="https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/blog/" target="_blank">Sunstone here in Salt Lake City in August</a>.  I really enjoyed the film, and highly recommend it.  I thought Kenny was pretty even-handed, and had experts discuss reactions by both Mormons and non-Mormons which escalated the violence.</p>
<p><span id="more-1112"></span>Following the presentation at the MHA Conference, Ballentine explained that he didn&#8217;t want his documentary to look like a Ken Burns documentary.  A fan of comic books, Kenny found a comic book illustrator to show scenes depicting the conflict.  It took me a while to get used to the comic book art, but it is starting to grow on me.  Kenny was kind enough to give me an advanced copy, and I would like to offer some of my impressions about the film and the conflict.  I hope he stops by to answer questions too!</p>
<p>I was really impressed with the lineup of experts Kenny interviewed.  The most famous people include Richard Bushman, LDS assistant historian Richard Turley, CoC Apostle Andrew Bolton, Washington State University Religion and Sociology professor Armand Mauss, and BYU Church History professor Alex Baugh, among an impressive list of guests.  He outlined a series of events leading up to the Hauns Mill Massacre and the Extermination Order.  Some of the key events include:</p>
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<li>July 20, 1833.  Bishop Partridge is told to leave Jackson County immediately.  He refuses and is tarred and feathered.  Three days later, he signs an agreement to leave the county.  Ballentine doesn&#8217;t really address the reasons why the Missourians were upset at the Mormons, though he does mention that the first Missourians wanted slavery to be legal, while the Mormons from the North were generally against slavery.  WW Phelps published an article in the <em>Evening and Morning Star</em> that Mormons wanted to welcome people of all color.  This is the reason the Missourians were upset, which is why they attacked Bishop Partridge, and destroyed the Mormon printing press.  (Joseph was living in Kirtland at this time.)</li>
<li>Oct 31-Nov 7.  Missourians incite hostilities against the Mormons.  Mormons leave for Clay County.</li>
<li>In 1836, the Missouri legislature declares Caldwell County will be set aside for Mormon settlement.  (This is the home of Far West.)  Ballentine doesn&#8217;t mention that the original &#8220;Jack Mormon&#8221;, non-Mormon Alexander Doniphan brokers a deal to create the county.  (<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/05/25/a-memorial-day-jack-mormon/" target="_blank">I previously mentioned Doniphan as one of the first Jack Mormons.</a>)</li>
<li>1838.  Joseph leaves Kirtland under the cover of night due to the <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/02/20/virtual-rsph-lesson-27-beware-the-bitter-fruits-of-apostasy/">Kirtland Bank Crisis  (I blogged about this earlier)</a>.  Upon arriving in Missouri, he finds dissent among Missouri Mormons as well.  John Whitmer, David Whitmer, Oliver Cowdery, and WW Phelps are excommunicated.  Many of these dissenters opposed living the <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/09/06/united-order-vs-consecration/">Law of Consecration</a>.  (As I mentioned in my previous post on consecration, it won&#8217;t work unless all members of the community participate, and many of the dissenters did not want to participate.)</li>
<li>June 17, 1838.  Sidney Rigdon issues the &#8220;Salt Sermon.&#8221;  In the sermon, he referenced the scripture about &#8220;salt that has lost it&#8217;s savor&#8221;, and essentially issued an ultimatum that Mormon apostates should leave the county or be forcibly removed.  Most of the dissenters move south to Ray County.</li>
<li>July 4, 1838.  Rigdon issued another fiery patriotic sermon stating that the Mormons and Missourians would wage a “war of extermination…one party or the other”.  It seems the subsequent Extermination Order by Governor Boggs wasn&#8217;t quite what Rigdon had in mind.</li>
<li>Aug 6, 1838 – Mormons in Daviess County were prevented from voting.  The Whig candidate said Mormons were only supposed to live in Caldwell County and should be ineligible to vote.  He was concerned that Mormons would vote for the Democratic Candidate, because Mormons were overwhelming Democrats back then.  A big brawl broke out that has often been called a “battle”.  There were exaggerated rumors that Mormons were killed.</li>
<li>Aug 19, 1838 &#8211; Mormons were expelled from DeWitt, in Daviess County.  Following the election, Missourians decided to expel Mormons.</li>
<li>Oct 18, 1838 &#8211; The Mormons decide to retaliate.  Known as the Daviess Expedition, a group of Danites (a secret Mormon militia group) led an effort to expel Missourians from Gallatin, Millport and Grindstone Fork.   Mormons plundered the property and burned the stores and houses to the  ground.</li>
<li>Oct 24, 1838 &#8211; The Battle of Crooked River.  Mormons attack and scatter the Missouri Militia.  Many of the Missouri Militia erroneously believe all others are killed.  Only 1 Missourian was killed, but LDS Apostle David Patten (known as &#8220;Captain FearNot&#8221;), Danite leader Gideon Carter were both killed; 9 other Mormons were wounded.</li>
<li>Oct 27, 1838 &#8211; Governor Lilburn Boggs issues the Extermination Order; &#8220;the Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or  driven from the State if necessary for the public peace&#8230;&#8221;</li>
<li>October 30, 1838 &#8211; The Hauns Mill Massacre; 18 Mormons are killed, ranging in age from 10-year old Sardius Smith, to 62 year old Thomas McBride.  I would like to quote directly from the film.</li>
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<blockquote><p>“On October 30, 1838, a large group of armed Missourians marched on the small and peaceful Mormon settlement known as Haun’s Mill, primarily in retribution for the Mormon gutting of Daviess County.</p>
<p><a href="http://religion.byu.edu/sing_fac.php?f=Alex&amp;l=Baugh">Alex Baugh</a>, associate professor of Church History and Doctrine at BYU said, “This was a revenge thing.  The sad part about that is that there is not one person in the Hauns Mill community that we can identify as having gone up on that Daviess expedition earlier in the month.  So sadly, on October 30, the Livingston County Militia, along with a number of those who had been kicked out of Daviess County came and attacked the Mormon settlement of Haun’s Mill.</p>
<p>Amanda Barnes Smith was a young Latter-day Saint mother who recorded the events of that day.</p>
<p>“A little before sunset, a mob of 300 came upon us.  The men hollered for the women and children to run for the woods while they ran for the old blacksmith shop.  Our men took off their hats and cried for quarters, but the mob paid no attention and shot them down.  I took my little girls and ran for the woods.  My boys I could not find.”</p>
<p>Amanda’s two little boys, Sardius and Alma had followed their father into the blacksmith shop.  The men had hoped to use the shop like a fortress in the event of an attack.  Instead, it quickly proved to be a death trap.  Seeing no other alternative, the men made a desperate dash for the woods, nearly all of them being gunned down in the process.  Many of the attackers looted, humiliated, and brutalized the wounded and dying.  The oldest victim was 62 year old Thomas McBride who after surrendering his weapon was hacked to death with a corn knife.  And the youngest was 10 year old Sardius Smith.  An enraged Missourian leveled his gun against the small boy’s head, and after proclaiming that ‘nits become lice” pulled the trigger.</p>
<p>Amanda found her husband and 10 year old son Sardius dead, and her 6 year old son’s hip was “all shot to pieces.”Apostle Andrew Bolton of the Community of Christ said,</p>
<p>“Hauns Mill was a tragedy:  17 boys and men are killed and another one dies later from his wounds.  Hauns Mill was a peaceful settlement of Mormons: 15 miles from the main group in Far West, but therefore isolated and vulnerable in the sectarian war that was erupting around them.  Two days before the massacre they reiterated their commitment to live in peace with their neighbors.  This was a genuine, authentic group that didn’t want any part of the violence and suffered horrible tragedy.  The lesson from Haun’s Mill is the innocent get hurt whenever there is human violence.  It spills over, and there is tragedy.</p></blockquote>
<p>So how does such a tragedy happen?  Why do neighbors turn so quickly on each other?  In my previous post, <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/06/27/a-horrific-tale-of-forgiveness/">I discussed the Rwandan Genocide</a>.  Armand Mauss describes the &#8220;Moral Panic&#8221; in Ballentine&#8217;s film.  He is professor emeritus of Sociology and Religious Studies at <a title="Washington State University" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_State_University">Washington State University</a>.  He retired in 1999, but continues to be active on Mormon studies.  He is probably most famous for his book <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=wTBUCGwdG8MC&amp;lpg=PP1&amp;pg=PP1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">The Angel and the Beehive</a>.  The Moral Panic explains how groups turn so quickly violent.</p>
<blockquote><p>“The Moral Panic refers to a Conflict situation in which a new religion or a fad or fashion presents to the host society a threat to for want of a better phrase, ‘all that they hold dear.’”</p>
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<p>When a society is gripped by a moral panic, that society is apt to respond as though their facing matters of life and death.  That leads to violence that is considered justifiable in almost any extreme, because of what we see is at stake.  It makes it possible for people who yesterday felt very friendly toward another people, suddenly see those people not only as enemies, but as less than human.”</p>
<p>…</p>
<p>All of the restraints that people normally feel about the way human beings should treat human beings, those restraints gradually melt away, and people who are perfectly nice, decent people, find themselves doing things that they would have never thought that they could do….Under other circumstances a group of Mormons and a group of Missourians might have gone to dinner together and had a good time, but under these circumstances, they faced the Moral Panic.”</p></blockquote>
<p>It is truly astonishing how quickly neighbor can turn against neighbor.  It is truly a tragedy when cooler heads do not prevail.</p>
<p>As I said before, I really enjoyed Ballentine&#8217;s film.  There is much more to the film than I have presented here.  If you get a chance to see this film at Sunstone, I encourage you to see it.  I know Ballentine is still trying to obtain financing to finish the film.  While it is not yet complete, I think it is an excellent film at this point.  I&#8217;ve invited Kenny to stop by, and I am sure he would welcome questions and comments.  If you would like a preview, click here for the official Website.  There are some <a title="Trouble in Zion" href="http://www.dreamertribe.com/DTP/Trouble_in_Zion.html" target="_blank">clips to watch</a>.</p>
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		<title>Religious Archaeology and Evidence</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t ever think I&#8217;ve done 2 posts in one day before, but I want to address this other issue that we have been discussing in the Strangite post.  I&#8217;d like to discuss both Biblical and Book of Mormon archaeology.  Most people believe the Bible is on solid archaeological footing, but that isn&#8217;t actually true. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t ever think I&#8217;ve done 2 posts in one day before, but I want to address this other issue that we have been discussing in the <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/06/12/the-strangites-another-mormon-group/">Strangite post</a>.  I&#8217;d like to discuss both Biblical and Book of Mormon archaeology.  Most people believe the Bible is on solid archaeological footing, but that isn&#8217;t actually true.  Many books have questionable authorship, and many places remain unidentified.  In a previous post, I discussed <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/04/11/questions-about-the-exodus/">Questions about the Exodus</a>: there isn&#8217;t a shred of evidence that it actually happened.  During Passover celebrations in 2001, Rabbi David Wolpe created international headlines in Israel by proclaiming to his Jewish congregation in Los Angeles, “the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way it happened, if it happened at all.”</p>
<p><span id="more-1093"></span>I&#8217;ve been listening to a <a href="http://oyc.yale.edu/religious-studies/introduction-to-the-old-testament-hebrew-bible/" target="_blank">podcast from Yale University discussing the Bible</a>.  There are definite similarities between the Babylonian story of  Gilgamesh and the stories of Adam and Noah.  Some people, such as Bishop Rick, have said</p>
<blockquote><p>I think it is accurate to state that the flood story in the bible is both myth and a forgery. It is obviously a myth for reasons too numerous to mention here, but it is also copied from other cultures/religions, thus making it a forgery.</p></blockquote>
<p>It could very well be a myth.  While some scholars believe the story is a myth, <a href="http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/ax/frame.html" target="_blank">National Geographic put together a documentary called &#8220;In Search for Noah&#8217;s Flood&#8221;</a>.  They discuss various flood stories, and make the case that a large, localized flood must have influenced these various cultures to write of this flood.  While there is no proof of a flood, it seems like a plausible explanation.</p>
<p>Recently I discussed a couple of sites in the Dead Sea region that <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/03/21/has-sodom-and-gomorrah-been-found/">some people believe are the sites of Sodom and Gomorrah</a>.  While some people love to claim the Bible is actually a collection of myths, Dr. Carole Fontaine of the Andover Newton Theological School said, “Archeologists often find themselves hooted and hollered out of town, when they first suggest things like, ‘I’ve found Troy, or look, we’ve found Sodom and Gomorrah.’  But history has shown that in fact, the more you dig, the more you find.  It’s amazing how accurate the Bible sometimes turns out to be.”</p>
<p>Speaking of hooting and hollering, John Hamer recently recorded a famous comment regarding Book of Mormon archaeology.  He said,</p>
<blockquote><p>The scholarly consensus on the alleged antiquity of the Book of Mormon was expressed way back in 1973 in Dialogue by Michael D. Coe, among the foremost Mayanist scholars, who wrote: “As far as I know there is not one professionally trained archaeologist, who is not a Mormon, who sees any scientific justification for believing the historicity of The Book of Mormon, and I would like to state that there are quite a few Mormon archaeologists who join this group”</p></blockquote>
<p>The best Book of mormon archaeological site seems to be Nahom.  <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/01/28/nahom-archeaological-evidence-of-book-of-mormon/">I&#8217;ve previously blogged about Nahom</a>, and Daniel C. Peterson called it a &#8220;bulls eye&#8221;.  In the video called<a href="http://store.fairlds.org/prod/p0934893039.html" target="_blank"> Journey of Faith</a> (distributed by FAIR), a few BYU scholars state,</p>
<blockquote><p>Daniel C. Peterson, Professor of Islamic Studies and Arabic, BYU, “The finding of Nahom strikes me as just a tremendously significant discovery.”</p>
<p>Noel B Reynolds, director of FARMS, BYU, “The gazetteers of Joseph Smith’s day listed no such place.”</p>
<p>Peterson, “What it really is, is a kind of prediction by the Book of Mormon, or something that we ought to find.”</p>
<p>William J Hamblin, Professor of Middle Eastern History, BYU, “Now the chances of finding that exact name from the exact time, in that exact place, by random chance, are just astronomical.”</p>
<p>Peterson, “And to find it in the right location, at the right time, is a really striking bulls eye for the book and there are those who say the book has no archeological substantiation. That’s a spectacular substantiation right there, it seems to me.  Something that would have been unexpected. It’s so unlikely that Joseph Smith could have woven into his story on his own.”</p>
<p>Hamblin, “The Book of Mormon has text, has made a complex prediction and modern archeology actually confirms that prediction.”</p>
<p>Peterson, “It’s a direct bulls-eye, as precise as you could wish it to be.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think non-Mormon scholars are as impressed with the site as Peterson, but non-Bible believing scholars aren&#8217;t impressed with Sodom and Gomorrah either.  So, must we always believe that lack of evidence argues against historicity of the Bible or Book or Mormon, or is there reason to believe that some of these stories that scholars call myths, forgeries, or pious frauds really might have some historical use?  Is it true that &#8220;the more you dig, the more you find?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>The Strangites: Another Mormon Group</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I mentioned previously, I really enjoyed the Strangite session of the Mormon History Association meetings a few weeks ago.  Vickie Speek, John Hamer, and Mike Karpowicz gave some fascinating presentations on this little known group.  Following the session, they answered additional questions, and I thought it would be interesting to provide a transcript of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/05/30/day-3-at-mha/">I mentioned previously</a>, I really enjoyed the Strangite session of the Mormon History Association meetings a few weeks ago.  Vickie Speek, John Hamer, and Mike Karpowicz gave some fascinating presentations on this little known group.  Following the session, they answered additional questions, and I thought it would be interesting to provide a transcript of the Q&amp;A session.  But before I get into the transcript, I should tell you a brief history of the Strangite Church.</p>
<div id="attachment_1081" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/250px-James_Strang_daguerreotype_1856.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1081" title="250px-James_Strang_daguerreotype_(1856)" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/250px-James_Strang_daguerreotype_1856-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">James Strang, prophet of the Strangite Church</p></div>
<p>James Strang was baptized into the church just a few months before Joseph Smith was killed in 1844.  He said he had a letter from Joseph proclaiming that Strang was to lead the church.  The letter is currently owned by Yale University; in the past few decades, they have declared Joseph Smith&#8217;s signature on the letter a forgery.</p>
<p>Evidently Strang was a dynamic leader.  <span id="more-1080"></span>Apparently, his church (officially known with slightly different punctuation as the Utah church: <em>the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints</em> [no hyphen, different capitalization]) rivaled the Brigham Young movement in size.  They had some well known converts too:  Martin Harris, William Smith (Joseph&#8217;s brother), William Cowdery (Oliver&#8217;s father), William Marks (stake president in Nauvoo), William McLellin (former apostle), Hiram Page, and some of the Whitmer brothers.</p>
<p>Strang claimed an angel visited him, appointing him as prophet.  As part of his calling, he translated the Brass Plates into a book of scripture called &#8220;The Book of the Law of the Lord&#8221; written by Moses, and in Laban&#8217;s possession.  Originally against polygamy, Strang translated the book (first published in 1851), which said polygamy was a godly commandment.</p>
<p>Strang originally moved his followers to Voree, Wisconsin, and then received another revelation to move to Beaver Island, Michigan.  He crowned himself king, and was assassinated there by disgruntled followers.  The Strangites still exist today.  The have a few hundred members in Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, and Wisconsin.  <a href="http://strangite.org/" target="_blank">Here is their official website</a>.  Independent historian Vickie Speek, John Hamer &amp; Mike Karpowicz of <a href="http://johnwhitmerbooks.com/">John Whitmer Books</a>, and Bill Russell of <a href="http://graceland.edu" target="_blank">Graceland University</a> (the CoC version of BYU) answered a few questions following their presentation on the past 160 years of Strangite history.</p>
<blockquote><p>Newell Bringhurst, “I found it very enlightening too, but the one area I wanted to hear a little bit more about was the core teachings, the liturgy.  Did you get a sense, particularly John and Mike?  [Vicky] You went into the Law of the Lord in your paper and those tenets and teachings, but what core teachings were perpetuated to the make things that give them an identity as far as their Mormonism or moving beyond or in a different direction in terms of their Mormon teachings that we would identify with as Mormons, from a Latter-Day Saint tradition?”</p>
<p>John Hamer, “I identified in my paper that there is a remarkable continuity.  When we first looked into this, we weren’t sure how this church that had been on Beaver Island and in Wisconsin, how did it end up being in New Mexico?  So we wondered, ‘is this a Neo-Strangite Church?  Is this a bunch of people who got converted and started calling themselves Strangites that don’t have any actual continuity?’  But we found in the course of looking through the records&#8211;we had incredible access to all the church’s records, we interviewed a dozen of the oldest members of the church, the branch records going all the way back to the 19<sup>th</sup> century are all kept in the vaults and all maintained—there is a remarkable continuity of practice and teaching that occurs because these Beaver Island members taught this new generation.  The practices remain and all sorts of things remain.</p>
<p>Some of the things we mentioned were sealing—sealing continues to be done, so that is unusual for Midwestern Mormons for example.  Most of the other branches other than the Cutlerites don’t do that.  You don’t have that in the Community of Christ.  It’s not in the Hedrickites.  They’re sealed for time and all eternity.  This idea of adopting into a noble and a princely household, these kingdom powers—that was being done all the way up through the [19]60’s, especially members of the Flanders clan were sealed, adopting into this Ketchum household that they were intermarried with in the 19<sup>th</sup> century, but essentially had forgotten that they were inter-married with.  This was more or less forgotten.  Some of this history has been recovered from the records, this connection between Joseph Ketchum and Granny Flanders.  Remember that Granny Flanders was this matriarch who had done this.</p>
<p>I would just say there are an incredible number of practices, there are all kinds of Strangite practices.  The Book of the Law of the Lord is integral as scripture.  It is read.  The Voree Branch are 7<sup>th</sup> day Sabbath-tarians—that’s Strangite practice.  The Laws of Sacrifice so they would sacrifice first fruits so again a lot of Strangite practice, because they had a second prophet, there’s all sorts of things that they have that other branches don’t have.  So I think the continuity is actually remarkable and the amount of practice and preservation is remarkable.  There are just a few things that fall out, because they don’t have the top priesthood offices.  So some things they don’t feel are valid to do.  One of those is plural marriages for example, they’re not done.</p>
<p>Vickie Speek, “There’s something we didn’t mention is the fact that according to Strangite belief, the lesser cannot ordain the higher. So they’ve lost their prophet, they’ve lost their priesthood, because only God can make a prophet.  Man can’t.  Man can’t make another prophet, so when James Strang died, the prophet died.</p>
<p>John Hamer, “It’s simply invalid for a teacher to ordain a priest.  Likewise, you cannot have an apostle ordain a prophet.  So that’s why Joseph [Smith] III’s ordination is invalid.  William Marks, as great of priesthood or whatever as he had is not a prophet, he cannot ordain a prophet.  Likewise Brigham Young, the other apostles that ordain him—that’s simply invalid in Strangite view, because the lesser cannot ordain the greater.</p>
<p>Newell Bringhurst, “So then the highest priesthood office then is a high priest, is that correct?”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Yes, High Priest.”</p>
<p>Bill Russell, “Since prophets die, and  Joseph was killed, then how are you going to have a successor to Joseph?”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Angelic ordination.”</p>
<p>??? “Just the way Strang was ordained.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “James Strang could have, under the direction of God, laid his hands and ordained somebody before he passed, but he did not.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hts.gatech.edu/faculty/foster-lawrence.php" target="_blank">Larry Foster</a>, “I also commend the excellent papers.  I had a couple questions more to Vickie, and maybe I missed part of it, or maybe it was answered elsewhere.  On the Book of the Law of the Lord, that’s an extremely impressive book I think.  I looked at it, but the 1856 edition is much bigger than the original book which is only about 50 pages?  A lot of the best stuff in the 1856 edition is these extended explanatory notes, I don’t know if polygamy is in the original text of the edition, or is it part of that explanatory notes stuff that extends the length of the book so much?</p>
<p>The other question I had was an inevitable question about Strang—what does one make of him?  He didn’t ordain a successor even though he was alive for several weeks after he was shot fatally.  Going back, how does polygamy get in there?  How about John C. Bennett?  It seems like john C. Bennett is right there at the heart of Nauvoo polygamy and Strangite polygamy and it seems like he was equally destructive in both contexts.  [audience chuckles]</p>
<p>I also wondered, I read one of Strang’s articles.  Golly, he could sure write.  He almost convinced me that polygamy was a great thing to liberate women.  [audience chuckles]  It gives them all kinds of choices they don’t have and they’re not stuck with a bunch of dodos.  It would appear, and I’ve been criticized by one of the Strangites for saying this, that certainly his letter of appointment was a forgery, that it seems to reflect his own diary.  It is block printed, the name has no relationship to Joseph Smith.”</p>
<p>Bill Russell, “We talked about his appointment at the beginning.”</p>
<p>Foster, “Oh you did.  There’s a pretty clear cut case of forgery, or maybe did you find some other approach?”</p>
<p>Vickie, “The way that I have looked at it.  When I wrote my book about the Strangites, I approached it basically as a newspaper reporter.  I was not going to take a position either way, I was just going to tell the story.  Because to me, it doesn’t matter to me what my opinion of James Strang was, but I was doing the story of the people who believed him, so that’s the way I wrote my book, and that’s the way I still basically look at it.  I have a tremendous amount of respect for the people who followed James Strang, and the Strangites of today, because their [road] is not the main road.  Theirs has been a very hard, hard road with a lot of heartache.</p>
<p>Now I would like to make one comment.  As far as I know, there is only a few copies of the 1851 Book of the Law, and there is somebody here who is familiar with the 1851 Book of the Law, and I’d like to ask him if there is polygamy in it?”</p>
<p>John Hajicek, “Yeah, there is.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “It’s basically the same thing?”</p>
<p>Hamer, “It’s in the main text, right?  In other words, it just lacks the commentary, so it has the text, it just doesn’t explain it, right?”</p>
<p>John Hajicek, “Are you guys asking me?”  [audience chuckles]  “Yeah, I have an 1851 Book of the Law and it’s an 80 page preliminary version.  It was published as a pamphlet with colored, printed wrappers on it.  It doesn’t have the explanatory notes.  It has 95% of the sections.  He continued to translate some additional sections.  There are some interesting differences.  For example, the first edition doesn’t have a chapter on baptism for the dead, and Strang includes his earlier 1849 revelation on baptism for the dead instead, and then has a footnote that says baptism for the dead evidently didn’t exist in the Old Testament.  Later he translates a chapter after on baptism from this Mosaic period, allegedly Mosaic period record.  So his own views changed.  But on polygamy he didn’t change.  The laws on the number of wives a king could have and things like that are all in that first edition.”</p>
<p>Bill Russell, “That 1851 edition does have that you say?”</p>
<p>John Hajicek, “Right.</p>
<p>Mike, “Bill, is my assumption correct that with the assassination of Strang, that the tensions between the Strangites and the state and federal government kind of dissipated at that point.  It is interesting to me that whereas the army had a relationship with the Utah church for quite a while, Strang was shot virtually under the guns of the USS Michigan, a naval vessel on the Great Lakes.  I don’t know what the reports that were filed by the state of Michagan were, and how they were considered when they got back to Washington to the Navy Department in the Pierce administration, but were the tensions with the state governments of in Michigan and Wisconsin and federal government dissipated after the assassination?”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Yeah, because they also got expelled.  They picked up all the members.  They spoiled them of all their property.  They put them on rented boats and they dropped them off all along the coast line destitute in little tiny groups.  So it was the worst kind of persecution results than any other Mormons faced.”</p>
<p>Mike, “Did the navy play a part in that or was it all surveyance from Mackinaw City?”</p>
<p>Vicky, “There is no positive evidence.  However, you take all the circumstantial evidence together, and I say yes.”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Not in the dropping off of the people.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “Not in the dropping off of people, no.”</p>
<p>Hamer, “But like Mike said, the warship is there in the murder.”</p>
<p>Mike, “Does the USS Michigan ferry people from Mackinaw City to St. James as part of the mob?”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Yes.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “As part of the Mob?”</p>
<p>Mike, “Yes”</p>
<p>Vickie, “I don’t believe it was the Michigan.  There were 2 ships in Michigan.  There was a steamer and there was a warship.”</p>
<p>Mike, “I’m asking about the USS Michigan, the warship.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “I don’t know.”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Right, The warship left the dock though.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “Right, it left the dock when Strang was murdered and the murderers jumped on the ship and then left.”</p>
<p>Mike, “2 guys jumped on the ship.”</p>
<p>Vickie and Hamer, “Right.”</p>
<p>Mike, “They left on the USS Michigan?”</p>
<p>Vickie and Hamer, “Yes”.</p>
<p>Mike, “It’s an interesting parallel with the 2 churches: one with the army involved, and the other with the navy.” [audience chuckles]</p>
<p>Vickie, “I think the conflict was gone, because the Strangites were gone, they were scattered.”</p>
<p>Mike, “and the polygamy issue kind of faded away, then?”</p>
<p>Vickie, “Right.”</p>
<p>William Russell, “Here’s a question right here, and then our time is expired so maybe this should be our last one.”</p>
<p>Woman, “Why did they kill James Strang?”</p>
<p>Vickie, “That’s a good question.  Basically, people had become disillusioned with Strang.  Strang was caught trying to follow the Book of the Law and one of the tenets of the church is no alcohol, and basically the Strangites didn’t allow alcohol and they did not support the sale of alcohol to the Native Americans and there was a lot of conflict with the gentiles, and so forth who wanted to sell alcohol.  Strangites became thirsty and they left the fold for other reasons, and those are the ones that basically were in the conspiracy to kill Strang.”</p>
<p>Hamer, “That’s one of them.  That’s on ongoing conflict.  Whenever Mormons gather together in big numbers and took political control and things like that, they would have conflict with their neighbors.  There are all kinds of problems that result from that including the 2 groups don’t trust each other, they don’t feel they can get justice from each other.  The other Americans see Mormons gathering under one prophet as being un-American.  There’s a lot of tendency to go and kill that prophet.”</p>
<p>Bill Russell, “One other thing though, he did serve 1 term in the Michigan legislature.”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Two terms.”</p>
<p>Russell, “Well 2 years I think is all.  But anyway, he was considered very effective according to the Detroit Free Press.  It’s interesting that a prophet and king could be elected to the Michigan legislature and get along well.” [audience chuckles]  He was also a member of the farms.  Well thank you very much, this was an excellent session.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Like I said, it was a fascinating question.  I&#8217;ve invited John Hamer and a few others to entertain questions if you have any.  Do you have any questions for them?</p>
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		<title>After the MHA Convention: A Very Schismatic Day 4</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[All trip long, I have been looking forward to attending the Community of Christ Devotional at the Independence Temple.  The meeting began at 8:30 AM, and was a wonderful hour of singing and spoken word.  Professor Alex Baugh of BYU, and Apostle Susan Skoor of the Community of Christ
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_1035" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/CoC-Independence-Temple2.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1035" title="CoC Independence Temple2" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/CoC-Independence-Temple2-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">CoC Independence Temple at Sunset</p></div>
<p>All trip long, I have been looking forward to attending the Community of Christ Devotional at the Independence Temple.  The meeting began at 8:30 AM, and was a wonderful hour of singing and spoken word.  Professor Alex Baugh of BYU, and Apostle Susan Skoor of the Community of Christ</p>
<div id="attachment_1037" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Apostle-Susan-Skoor-CoC.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1037" title="Apostle Susan Skoor CoC" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Apostle-Susan-Skoor-CoC-150x150.jpg" alt="you can see my shoulder" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">CoC Apostle Susan Skoor</p></div>
<p>gave background on many hymns written or revised by WW Phelps.  It was a truly inspiring meeting.  I haven’t enjoyed singing that much since I was in the MTC!</p>
<p><span id="more-1034"></span>Following the service, I went on a tour of the temple.  We visited the meditation chapel, as saw many beautiful sculptures inside the temple.  Unlike LDS temples, we were able to take photos everywhere except for the museum.  I was lucky enough to be led on a personal tour by Ron Romig, Director of the Kirtland Temple (Community of Christ.)</p>
<div id="attachment_1038" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Ron-Romig.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1038" title="Ron-Romig" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Ron-Romig-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">CoC Kirtland Temple Director Ron Romig</p></div>
<p>Displayed in the museum were actual copies of 1830, 1837, and 1840 copies of the Book of Mormon, along with facsimiles of the printer’s manuscript.  The famous oil painting of Joseph and Emma were also there, along with photos of the previous 6 or 7 prophet/presidents of the Community of Christ.  It was truly fascinating.</p>
<p>Following the tour, I wanted to visit some of the other Restoration churches.  There are quite a few Restoration churches in the vicinity.  When Joseph designed the city of Independence, he had allocated 63 acres for 24 temples to be erected on 3 city blocks.  The original plan called for 12 temples for the Melchizedek Priesthood, and 12 temples for the Aaronic Priesthood.  These temples apparently were supposed to serve a more administrative role than for worship.  As you can imagine, many followers of Joseph Smith, both inside and outside the LDS and RLDS churches have clamored for this land.</p>
<div id="attachment_1039" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Temple-Lot2.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1039" title="Temple Lot2" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Temple-Lot2-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Temple Lot Church Building</p></div>
<p>A group calling itself the Church of Christ (Temple Lot) actually owns the location for the spot where Joseph Smith said a temple should reside, and they have a church on that location now.  The RLDS owns a portion o fthe temple lot, where the Independence Temple resides, and the LDS church owns a visitor’s center and a stake center on part of the temple lot.</p>
<p>I really would like to attend some of these other Restorationist branches, so it was difficult for me to choose where to go.  I attended part of the service for the Church of Christ (Temple Lot), also known as the Hedrickites.  The group was founded by a man by the name of Granville Hedrick.  There is an article in the Journal of Mormon History outlining many legal battles between the Hedrickites and the RLDS church, with the Hedrickites prevailing.  I attended about 20 minutes of the service.  During the service, a baby was blessed, and I heard references to both the Bible and Book of Mormon.  I was late for the service, but I did not see a sacrament table, so I’m not sure if that was part of the service.</p>
<div id="attachment_1041" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Stone-church-2.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1041" title="Stone church (2)" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Stone-church-2-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Stone Church</p></div>
<p>Wanting to visit a few other churches, I attended the Stone Church—the oldest church in Independence. The RLDS church began construction in 1873 and it was dedicated in 1888.  I arrived just in time for the last song and prayer.  The church had a balcony, similar to the Salt Lake Tabernacle.  The congregation stood during the last song, and I was so tall that I had to duck into the aisle to see the organist.  There were old wooden benches there, but they had cushions.</p>
<div id="attachment_1042" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Stone-Church-inside-2.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1042" title="Stone Church inside (2)" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Stone-Church-inside-2-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">You can see the balcony and benches</p></div>
<p>I asked if I could take photos, and they said I could.  There were 3 beautiful stained glass windows: one showing Moroni, Joseph Smith, and</p>
<div id="attachment_1044" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Stone-Church-Moroni-2.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1044" title="Stone Church Moroni (2)" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Stone-Church-Moroni-2-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Moroni with Gold Plates and Book of Mormon</p></div>
<p>the Golden Plates, another showing Moses, Jesus, and the resurrection, and a third symbolizing the Trinity.  The people were extremely friendly, and it was nice to have one of the members take me on a mini-tour.</p>
<div id="attachment_1048" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Stone-Church-inside-3.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1048" title="Stone Church inside (3)" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Stone-Church-inside-3-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">view of Pipe Organ and podium in Stone Church</p></div>
<p>Following that service, I noticed another Community of Christ church a short distance away.  I was surprised to learn that they had a Jazz band playing.  I recorded a few minutes of their last song!  (I tried to post it, but the file is too big&#8211;I&#8217;ll try to condense it somehow.)  They mentioned that the neighborhood was full of drugs and gangs, and they were tyring to help citizens in the area avoid these problems.  They invited me back next week for a baby blessing, but I told them I had a plane to catch.</p>
<div id="attachment_1051" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/CoC-Jazz-church.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1051" title="CoC Jazz church" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/CoC-Jazz-church-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">They have a Jazz band for church services</p></div>
<p>A friend told me that I really needed to attend the Cutlerite Church.  It was founded in 1853 by Alphaeus Cutler, who I believe is mentioned in the D&amp;C.  On my way there, I mistakenly thought this was a Cutlerite church.</p>
<div id="attachment_1052" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Small-Church.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1052" title="Small Church" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Small-Church-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Not sure of origins, but I&#39;m pretty sure it is Mormon--I may call the number to find out</p></div>
<p>I knocked on the door, but nobody answered.</p>
<div id="attachment_1053" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Small-Church3.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1053" title="Small Church3" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Small-Church3-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Bigger view of this &quot;Restored&quot; church</p></div>
<p>Just a few houses down was the real Cutlerite church.  My friend told me that the Cutlerites are the only group that still maintains an Endowment Ceremony, and it is conducted in the upstairs portion of this church.</p>
<div id="attachment_1054" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Cutlerite-sign.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1054" title="Cutlerite sign" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Cutlerite-sign-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">founded by Alphaeus Cutler 1853</p></div>
<p>Apparently they only have about 10-15 people meet on a weekly basis.  The MHA pre-conference tour flooded them with about 50 interested participants.</p>
<div id="attachment_1055" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Cutlerite.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1055" title="Cutlerite" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Cutlerite-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Cutlerite Chapel</p></div>
<p>Unfortunately, I arrived too late: the doors were locked.  Here are a few photos, and I stuck my camera up to the door to peer into the chapel.</p>
<div id="attachment_1056" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Cutlerite-chapel2.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1056" title="Cutlerite chapel2" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Cutlerite-chapel2-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Cutlerite Chapel</p></div>
<p>As I looked at my map, I decided to try to find Lilburn W Boggs house.  Unfortunately, I never found it, but I did find another interesting church: the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.  <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Remnant-logo.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1057" title="Remnant logo" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Remnant-logo-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>They meet across the street from the Independence Temple in a converted high school (formerly Crisman High School.)  I walked around the building, and discovered a man.  Apparently, they hold luncheons for the needy and homeless.  Their freezer had broken, so he was loading food into his van.  I asked him if I might be able to tour the building, and he reluctantly agreed.  His name is Arlo Stevenson.</p>
<div id="attachment_1058" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Arlo-Stevenson-House-of-Aaron.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1058" title="Arlo Stevenson-House of Aaron" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Arlo-Stevenson-House-of-Aaron-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Arlo Stevenson of the House of Aaron</p></div>
<p>I learned that he is not a member of the Remnant Church, but his church has partnered with them to help out the needy.  The Remnant Church is a break-off from the RLDS church.  Arlo is a former member of the RLDS church, but has joined the House of Aaron, and I learned that this church has a branch about 50 miles west of Delta, Utah on the Utah/Nevada border.  Arlo showed me the Remnant Church offices, and then I learned that the Remnant Church has rented a room for the House of Aaron to hold meetings.  I purchased a “Sunday School” manual, and I hope to do a future post on the House of Aaron.</p>
<p>I also ran into some interesting people.  I had a nice chat on Saturday night with Paul Savage, Apostle of the Church of Jesus Christ of the Elijah message.  He is from Independence as well, and has a small congregation.  I had recently purchased <a href="http://www.johnwhitmerbooks.com/books/details_SOS.asp" target="_blank">Scattering of the Saints</a> by John Hamer<a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Joseph-Smith-and-John-Hamer.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-1059" title="Joseph-Smith-and-John-Hamer" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Joseph-Smith-and-John-Hamer-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>and Newell Bringhurst, and he pointed to the cover to his name.  I said, “Wow, I thought these were all dead people.”</p>
<p>“I’m not dead!” he exclaimed.  He was a really interesting person.  We didn’t have much time to chat, but I got his email address and hope to discuss this group further as I learn more.</p>
<p>I also took my picture with 2 apostles from the Community of Christ:  Andrew Bolton and Susan Skoor.  Here is Elder Marlin Jensen, Historian for the LDS church.  <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Elder-Marlin-Jensen-LDS-His.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1060" title="Elder-Marlin-Jensen-LDS-His" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Elder-Marlin-Jensen-LDS-His-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>I was pleased to meet many authors including John Hamer, Newell Bringhurst, Kathy Daines, Rick Turley (asst LDS Church Historian), and Greg Prince.  It was a real blast—I remarked to some that Independence felt a bit like Mormon Disneyland to me.</p>
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		<title>Day 3 at MHA</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 00:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Hamer, Mike Karpowicz, and Vickie Cleverly Speck gave a very interesting history of the Strangite movement.  What’s a Strangite you say?  Speck filled in many details: she said that James Strang was baptized into the LDS church just 4 months prior to the death of Joseph Smith.  Strang claims to have a letter from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Hamer, Mike Karpowicz, and Vickie Cleverly Speck gave a very interesting history of the Strangite movement.  What’s a Strangite you say?  Speck filled in many details: she said that James Strang was baptized into the LDS church just 4 months prior to the death of Joseph Smith.  Strang claims to have a letter from Joseph Smith making him the new leader of the LDS movement, and claims to been visited by Smith at the moment of Smith’s death.  An angel later anointed Strang with oil as the new prophet.  Amazingly, Strang counted many of the Smith family (including  Joseph’s brother William) as followers, and other prominent members, such as Martin Harris.</p>
<p><span id="more-1030"></span>Strang translated the Brass Plates: the official name is the Book of the Law of the Lord.  Strang initially denounced polygamy, but after translating these plates, he was commanded by an angel to practice polygamy.  This book of scripture plays a prominent role in Strangite worship services, outlining the proper practice of polygamy, marriage, adultery, and inheritance.  Strang was an abolitionist, and believed that servants should receive inheritances from masters, just as children.</p>
<p>Hamer detailed the history of the Strangites following Strang’s assassination in 1856 (by disgruntled followers).  Apparently, there were about 4-5 prominent families, and most members have descended from this family.  Strangites originally settled in Voree, Wisconsin, but later moved to Beaver Island, Michigan.  Following Strang’s death, the group was forcibly removed from Beaver Island and their property was confiscated.  They settled in other areas: Michigan, Kansas, Colorado, and New Mexico.  A schism in the group split the families, but the group unified in 1955.  The largest branch in Voree has added some new converts and no family currently dominates in Voree, unlike other branches.  Voree has the largest branch in the church, and their <a href="http://www.strangite.org/" target="_blank">website is found here</a>.</p>
<p>In another session, Max Muellar from Harvard talked about changing portraits of Emma Smith, and Darin Tuck discussed the story of the gulls eating crickets.  Apparently he irritated a few in the audience when he said the gull story had obtained “mythical” status—the question and answer was more animated than the presentation.</p>
<p>Livinia Fielding Anderson discussed some very general similarities of Joseph Smith Sr’s patriarchal blessings.  She outlined only blessings with known dates between Dec 9, 1834, and April 8, 1838.  LaJean Purcell Carruth described translating some old Mormon records written in Pittman Shorthand.  She noted that Brigham Young said that the law seemed tilted against the Mormons.  Gary James Bergera discussed some of the ethical and moral aspects of spiritual wives.  He noted that Joseph had 20 wives before Emma learned he had taken any polygamous wives.</p>
<p>So, that’s a quick summary from yesterday.  Questions or comments?</p>
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		<title>Highlights of Day 2 at MHA: Trouble in Zion, Bushman, Gordon, and Bringhurst and the Awards</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s the pits when you have to choose between sessions, and I made a difficult choice in the morning.  I had wanted to attend Kathleen Flake’s session on LDS Adoption Theology, but instead attended Ken Ballentine’s documentary, Trouble in Zion. (Saints Herald has already blogged about it, and there is a Facebook page.  I also [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the pits when you have to choose between sessions, and I made a difficult choice in the morning.  I had wanted to attend Kathleen Flake’s session on LDS Adoption Theology, but instead attended Ken Ballentine’s documentary, Trouble in Zion. (<a href="http://saintsherald.com/2010/01/08/comparing-the-missouri-mormon-war-with-contemporary-conflicts/">Saints Herald has already blogged about it</a>, and there is a <a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Trouble-in-Zion/244083709320?ref=ts">Facebook page</a>.  I also mentioned that I wanted to see it from the <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/01/19/lds-film-festival-2010/">LDS Film Festival earlier this year</a>.)</p>
<p><span id="more-1022"></span>I thought it was very well done.  After the session, I was sitting on the floor next to a Wi-Fi hotspot when Ken walked by.  I told him I admired the film and asked him a few questions about film-making.  (I have wanted to create my own documentary on church history.)  When he learned that I was a blogger, he offered me an advance copy of the film and soundtrack!!!!  I told him I would love to blog about it!  He hasn’t finished the film yet (but he said it is more finished than it was in January), and hopes to distribute it on public television and further distribution in the future.  So, I’ll give a more detailed review in the next few weeks, but my brief summary is a definite thumbs up!</p>
<p>In the audience was Community of Christ Apostle Andrew Bolton, and some other professional historians.  It was interesting to hear their perspectives on the film, and they gave Ken some interesting advice.  The film covers the 1838 Missouri War between the Mormons and the Missourians.  I’m familiar with the conflict from Richard Bushman’s book Rough Stone Rolling, but I often get events confused.  Ballentine put together this film, and I think it will be an excellent reference.  (I was also surprised when he said he had heard of my blog—I get amazed to learn of all the people that read without commenting.)</p>
<p>I also bought a couple new books and had them autographed.  John Hamer autographed my copy of <a href="http://www.johnwhitmerbooks.com/books/details_SOS.asp">Scattering of the Saints: Schism within Mormonism</a>.  Brother Rick Turley, assistant LDS Church Historian autographed his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Massacre-Mountain-Meadows-Ronald-Walker/dp/0195160347">Massacre at Mountain Meadows</a>.  He has a new book called sdfhksjh with material unavailable to Jaunita Brooks (she wrote <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/03/11/war-and-prayer/">The Mountain Meadows Massacre, that I blogged about previously</a>).</p>
<p>The morning plenary session was from Laurel Thatcher Ulrich.  She is a 5th generation Mormon that teaches at Harvard.  She gave an interesting presentation on the Wilford Woodruff diaries.  The afternoon session included a great session about polygamy.  Newell Bringhurst was great!  Following the session, I asked him if he agreed with Michael Quinn&#8217;s assertion that theocracy was a bigger problem than polygamy from the Nauvoo Expositor.  He disagreed with Quinn.  He felt that polygamy was an explosive topic.  He agreed that theocracy was a potential problem, but believed the polygamy was the bigger problem.  (I blogged about this previously&#8211;<a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/10/the-nauvoo-expositor-a-different-perspective/">The Nauvoo Expositor, a Different Perspective</a>.)</p>
<p>The evening session was a real treat.  Sally Gordon, Jan Shipps, and Richard Bushman put together a great presentation on the Mountain Meadows Massacre.  Gordon called the 1999 dedication of the marker by President Hinckley a &#8220;political disaster.&#8221;  She also said that Richard Turley&#8217;s new book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Massacre-Mountain-Meadows-Ronald-Walker/dp/0195160347" target="_blank">Massacre at Mountain Meadows</a> was not considered a &#8220;definitive history&#8221; of the event because of the sponsorship of the LDS church.  She said that it has not resolved the issue, not because of scholarship&#8211;which she implied was good, and noted they had studied some previously undiscussed documents, but simply because of sponsorship.</p>
<p>She also reviewed many books on Mormonism.  She said that Jan Shipps 1985 book on <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=mIr3eviKfE0C&amp;dq=jan+shipps+mormonism&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=bn&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=0BIBTJ_VAoSsNa2ElTs&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=6&amp;ved=0CDEQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" target="_blank">Mormonism: The Story of a New Religious Tradition</a> was the first cross-over book for both Mormons and non-Mormons since <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=Jzg-ZMna724C&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=great+basin+kingdom&amp;cd=1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">Great Basin Kingdom</a>, by LDS Church Historian Leonard Arrington.</p>
<p>She also referred to books hostile to religion, such as Will Bagley&#8217;s <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=eakce2R_mdkC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=blood+of+the+prophets&amp;cd=1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" target="_blank">Blood of the Prophets</a>.  She even quoted Bagley as saying religion in frightening: &#8220;God save us all from men doing God&#8217;s work.&#8221;  She also referred to <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=YuDl2Wl651AC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=da+vinci+code&amp;cd=1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">Da Vinci Code</a>:  Dan Brown said that everything was &#8220;accurate.&#8221;  John Krakauer&#8217;s book <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=pRyhD_QN-fcC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=under+the+banner+of+heaven&amp;cd=1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" target="_blank">Under the Banner of Heaven</a> linked the MMM and the Lafferty murders.  In reality, she said that both books made leaps and were fast and loose with the facts.  Gordon and Shipps felt that most histories of the MMM were incomplete because they felt the event was best understood in a religious context.</p>
<p>Richard Bushman responded that he agreed with Shipps and Gordon that this event should be interpreted in a religious context.  He also agreed that we are currently living in an anti-fanatical movement, in light of the 9/11 terrorist attack.  He said that it is a sad commentary that Walker and Turley&#8217;s book was doomed from the start because of the LDS church&#8217;s support.  However, he believes the book will have influence over time because the battle will turn to documents and evidence&#8211;the realm that historians are comfortable discussing.</p>
<p>Bushman said he was attracted to Shipps and Gordon&#8217;s point of view, but he hopes that Mormon problems are not unique.  He concluded that it is better to be chastened by the past, rather than to sanitize the past.  I was able to speak with Richard Bushman following the lecture, and I told him I appreciated his book <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=Mz3tpz4eRBQC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=rough+stone+rollling&amp;cd=1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">Rough Stone Rolling</a>.</p>
<p>I told him that I had heard him say to another, &#8220;I think I got into trouble because I was too candid&#8221;, and I wondered what he was talking about.  He said that is something he often says, and didn&#8217;t recall exactly what that was referring to.  I told him that I often feel like I have to keep quiet in church.  He said that he does too, but when he teaches Sunday School, he does bring up some tougher questions.  I told him I tried to do that too, but that I had been pulled into the bishop&#8217;s office because a member of the stake presidency objected to my use of  a non-KJV Bible to explain some passages of Isaiah.  He said he was sorry to hear that, but he knew many Mormons that read non-KJV Bibles, and encouraged me to keep &#8220;plugging away.&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, here is the big announcement I was talking about yesterday.  The awards banquet was last night.</p>
<p>At the awards banquet last night, the association gave Senator Bond the Thomas L. Kane Award for Outstanding Service to the Mormon Community by a non-Mormon. They specifically referenced his courage in ending what amounted to almost a century and a half of animosity and suspicion between Latter-day Saint communities and their Missouri neighbors.</p>
<p>The association issued several other awards for articles and books on Mormon history published the previous year. These included:</p>
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<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Undergraduate Student Paper Award</span>, Joseph T. Antley’s “Early America’s Treasure Quest: The Effort to Recapture the Supernatural in the American Northeast.”</li>
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<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Graduate Student Paper</span>, Matthew Bowman’s “Matthew Philip Gill and Joseph Smith: The Dynamics of Mormon Schism.”</li>
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<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Thesis Award (two winners)</span>, Debra Marsh’s “Respectable Assassins: A Collective Biography and Social Economic Study of the Carthage Mob” and Caye Wycoff’s “Markets and the Mormon Conflict in Nauvoo, Illinois, 1839 &#8211; 1846.”</li>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Dissertation</span>, Jonathan Moyer’s “Dancing with the Devil: The Making of the Mormon Republican Pact.”</li>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Article Award</span>, Samuel Brown’s “Joseph Smith in Egypt: Babel, Hieroglyphics, and the Pure Language of Eden.”</li>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best International Book</span>, In Harm&#8217;s Way: East German Latter-day Saints in WWII by Roger P. Minert.</li>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Documentary</span> (two winners), Eliza R. Snow: The Complete Poetry , edited by Jill Mulvay Derr and Karen Lyn Davidson, and Mountain Meadows Massacre: The Andrew Jenson and David H. Morris Collection , Richard E. Turley and Ronald W. Walker, editors.</li>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Biography</span>, Mormon Convert, Mormon Defector: A Scottish Immigrant in the American West, 1848 &#8211; 1861 by Polly Aird.</li>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best First Book</span>, Performing American Identity in Anti-Mormon Melodrama by Megan Sanborn Jones.</li>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Book Award</span>, “Liberty to the Downtrodden”: Thomas L. Kane, Romantic Reformer by Matthew J. Grow.</li>
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<p>It was a fascinating conference, and I look forward to Day 3.</p>
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