Comments on: Carthage Conspiracy: Trial of Joseph’s Assassins

By: Mormon Heretic » Nauvoo City Council Minutes

Mormon Heretic » Nauvoo City Council Minutes — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:07:08 +0000

[...] Following the destruction of the press, Joseph, Hyrum, and others were transported to Carthage on the charge of riot. Once there, the charge was upgraded to treason. I’ve talked previously about Michael Quinn downplaying polygamy in relation to the Expositor, as well as Dallin Oaks’ book discussing the trial of Joseph’s assassins. [...]

By: Mormon Heretic

Mormon Heretic — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 04:55:50 +0000

It is so interesting to me that so many people have relatives dating to this event. Thanks for stopping by Sheila!

By: Sheila E

Sheila E — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 01:42:54 +0000

Hi, all, thank you for this enlightening “conversation.” I came across these postings while researching my husband’s family history, many of whom lived in Nauvoo and Carthage at the time, but none of them were Morman. I was VERY relieved to read that none of my husband’s family were among the accused, but the Samuel Otho Williams mentioned in the eyewitness accounts is one of my husband’s direct ancestors. Does anyone know where the full text of his letter is? I’ve only encountered snippets of it when I googled his name. He was a member of the Carthage Greys at the time, and I would like to know the full extent of his involvement. (ASAP after the evening in question, he moved his family out of Carthage…was he fearful or ashamed? I don’t know.)

By: R Williams

R Williams — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:45:53 +0000

I learned of the gun in my church history glass in high school
where have you been

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:59:25 +0000

Just wanted to add that my great^4 grandfather, Cyrus Wheelock, gave JS the gun he used.

By: Mormon Heretic

Mormon Heretic — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:26:27 +0000

Lisa, thanks for stopping by. I just posted ay updated version of this post slightlagain over at Mormon Matters, so you may want to follow a new, ongoing conversation I've started over there.

By: Lisa Brown

Lisa Brown — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:53:32 +0000

Wow, I didn’t realise this is an ongoing opportunity to voice… I think Joseph went to the window to, ‘give the mob what they wanted’ and hopefully, ‘appease the beast’, allowing his friends in the room a possible chance to be spared. I have a profound witness that Joseph Smith was a Prophet of God, and a man of wonderful, heartfelt passions. Thinking about the circumstances makes me appreciate him even more… May Heavenly Father bless us all with greater understanding…

By: Lisa Brown

Lisa Brown — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:27:33 +0000

Thanks so much for clarifying these shots as ‘injuring’ and not killing these assailants. I agree, who would argue ‘self defense’? and yet I have to say, it was unexpected when Cyrus Wheelock slipped the gun in Joseph’s pocket. The anxiety and adrenalin were beginning to mix with prayers for calm as the pounding footsteps and angry voices drew near. I believe when shots fired through the closed door(cowards!) and Hyrum was killed, Joseph in his incredible sense of love and loss for his brother wielded the gun as a tangible ‘CRY OF INJUSTICE’… who could fault the heart of this wonderful man… called of God to be His Prophet and mouthpiece… who gave it all?! Where is your heart to question, if you truly have looked at the circumstances of this man’s life? Let your questions come in the form of a prayer FROM YOUR HEART… “and it shall be given unto you…” and ‘the TRUTH shall set you free.”

By: Mormon Heretic » The Anti-Polygamy Raids

Mormon Heretic » The Anti-Polygamy Raids — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:48:21 +0000

[...] The practice was not announced publicy until 1852, and the actual revelation was not added to the D&C until 1876. I talked about the Nauvoo Expositor, which published allegations of Joseph’s polygamy. Joseph directed the press be destroyed, which resulted in his arrest and eventual murder at the Carthage Jail. [...]

By: MH

MH — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:54:26 +0000

Bishop Rick, I agree whole-heartedly.