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By: Mormon Heretic » The Documentary Hypothesis

Mormon Heretic » The Documentary Hypothesis — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:55:56 +0000

[...] most oft-quoted articles of faith by members of the LDS church. In one of my previous posts on Scripture Literalism, the comments referred to Biblical inerrancy and literalism. Some evangelicals believe that the [...]

By: Bishop Rick

Bishop Rick — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:32:02 +0000

Sxark: Yes it is. Way too much to discuss here. I have requested a post on this in the Future Posts section.

FT: I will read that article, then return and comment.

By: FireTag

FireTag — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:58:30 +0000

BR:

I believe that it is possible to reconcile your scenario 1 with the “3-year mission” scenario, but it involves a radically LESS mechanistic view of the process than I’m used to involving in my own thinking. The best expression of it I’ve seen, and am still trying to absorb, is given as part of a thread about how the CofChrist is trying to deal with issues of sexual identity, but drifts into a larger theological discussion. The particular comment is by Matt Frizzell, the equiv of an LDS SP. I’ll put the address in quotes so I don’t mess up the html.

Read at your own risk.

“http://saintsherald.com/2009/06/06/sexual-policy-and-the-church/#comment-298″

By: Sxark

Sxark — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:19:24 +0000

BR:

Is the “tremendous amount of evidence that supports a myth stance” revealed evidence?

By: Bishop Rick

Bishop Rick — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:19:15 +0000

There is a tremendous amount of evidence that would support a myth stance since the life of Jesus parallels so many other religious figures that preceded him. Even the NT gives unintended hints to support this. I think that with Jesus, he either lived as a heretical Jew trying to make change within his own religion, after which his stories were embellished to support the Christian movement, or he did not live at all and his stories were made up. I really do not think God placed his son on earth so he could go on a 3 year mission in a very localized setting, then suffer and die for every sin ever committed or will be committed. That scenario is simply not plausible for me. Of the 2 scenarios mentioned above, I haven’t made up my mind yet, but tend to lean in the direction that he never existed.

By: MH

MH — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:11:38 +0000

Tara, thanks for the reminder. I promise way more posts than I can deliver in a timely manner–I’ll try to get to work on that one too. Also, I have a new page for post suggestions. At the top, I have a page called “Future Posts” and am very open to suggestions. So, I’ll add Adam and Even (and get rid of Science/Religion.) Anyone can post comments there, so I don’t forget.

Bishop Rick, thanks. I’m getting more acquainted with your positions. Where do you stand on Jesus and the resurrection: myth/literal, or combo? If combo, can you expound?

By: Bishop Rick

Bishop Rick — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:23:42 +0000

MH: I haven’t really taken a stand yet, but that is where I lean.

By: Tara

Tara — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:28:36 +0000

I’m still waiting for a post on Adam and Eve. But that’s okay.

By: MH

MH — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:58:07 +0000

Tara, I’ll start working on a new post about the Documentary Hypothesis. To briefly answer your question, it is my understanding that when the Kingdom of Israel split into the Northern 10 Tribes, and Southern 2 Tribes, that the Northern Kingdom used a different set of scriptures, and different name of God to distinguish themselves. Remember, religion and politics were never considered separate back then, so it seems to have as much to do with politics as theology. It is my understanding that the KJV uses both sets, so that is why God is referred to in both names.

Bishop Rick, there are some people who believe the Exodus and Joshua were basically invented. These people believe that the Canaanites and Israelites were basically the rich Canaanites vs poor Israelites. Under this theory, the Israelite/Canaanite struggle was basically a class struggle, and Israelites invented Moses and Joshua. Is this where you stand?

By: FireTag

FireTag — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:39:08 +0000

@MH
I prefer to think of it as thinking outside the tesseract, or being crazy in interesting ways.