Comments on: Similarities Between the Lemba and Lehi http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/ Stuff they don't talk about in Sunday School Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:23:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: T.M.M http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/comment-page-1/#comment-10442 T.M.M Sun, 06 Mar 2011 16:58:47 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=567#comment-10442 I think its great that the bible proves to be right again!!! If you read Numbers 12 (yes, in the Bible) it says that Moses married a Ethiopian woman....That great priest of the bible married a black woman.. Don't take my word for it check it out for yourselves. I think its great that the bible proves to be right again!!! If you read Numbers 12 (yes, in the Bible) it says that Moses married a Ethiopian woman….That great priest of the bible married a black woman.. Don’t take my word for it check it out for yourselves.

]]> By: FireTag http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/comment-page-1/#comment-6620 FireTag Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:02:50 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=567#comment-6620 MH: Thought you might want to read the following article that popped up in the Jerusalem Post science section today. http://www.jpost.com/HealthAndSci-Tech/ScienceAndEnvironment/Article.aspx?id=177446 MH:

Thought you might want to read the following article that popped up in the Jerusalem Post science section today.

http://www.jpost.com/HealthAndSci-Tech/ScienceAndEnvironment/Article.aspx?id=177446

]]> By: Pedro A. Olavarria http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/comment-page-1/#comment-2784 Pedro A. Olavarria Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:48:05 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=567#comment-2784 Hmm, thats interesting. Im no geneticist, but I wonder if there is a way to determine how the CMH entered a specific population. Suppose some Quiche Maya were found to have CMH, how do we know it didnt come from the Spaniards? Hmm, thats interesting. Im no geneticist, but I wonder if there is a way to determine how the CMH entered a specific population. Suppose some Quiche Maya were found to have CMH, how do we know it didnt come from the Spaniards?

]]> By: MH http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/comment-page-1/#comment-2776 MH Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:17:19 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=567#comment-2776 Pedro, yes we don't know all the variables, but I think the Cohen Modal Haplotype would certainly be an important find. I don't know if you saw my post about the CMH found in South America, but some BoM geographers think this is a pretty significant find. Check out http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/05/13/hebrew-dna-found-in-south-america/ Pedro, yes we don’t know all the variables, but I think the Cohen Modal Haplotype would certainly be an important find. I don’t know if you saw my post about the CMH found in South America, but some BoM geographers think this is a pretty significant find. Check out http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/05/13/hebrew-dna-found-in-south-america/

]]> By: Pedro A. Olavarria http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/comment-page-1/#comment-2772 Pedro A. Olavarria Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:03:08 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=567#comment-2772 <a href="#comment-2708" rel="nofollow">@MH </a> Again, we don't really know what Lehi, Sariah or Ishmael were apart from Ishmael and Lehi being descendants of Joseph. Who else were they descendant from? Assuming that the gene would be found in all the tribes, that doesn't mean that the gene would be found in all Israelites. If you don't know then you don't know. That coupled with the fact that Lehi's descendants were seperated from world jewry for 2100 years whereas the Lemba were in Yemen for who knows how long before they made the final leap to Africa. There are just too many variables. @MH
Again, we don’t really know what Lehi, Sariah or Ishmael were apart from Ishmael and Lehi being descendants of Joseph. Who else were they descendant from? Assuming that the gene would be found in all the tribes, that doesn’t mean that the gene would be found in all Israelites. If you don’t know then you don’t know.

That coupled with the fact that Lehi’s descendants were seperated from world jewry for 2100 years whereas the Lemba were in Yemen for who knows how long before they made the final leap to Africa. There are just too many variables.

]]> By: MH http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/comment-page-1/#comment-2708 MH Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:22:00 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=567#comment-2708 Yes Pedro, but the Cohen Modal Haplotype dates back to the time of Moses and Aaron. If the Levites intermarried with other tribes over the next, say 1000-1500 years before Lehi, then this gene would also be found among all the tribes. It is a marker that dates much farther back than Lehi--it dates to Moses and Aaron, so it is likely to be found not just among the Levites, but among all the tribes of Israel. Yes Pedro, but the Cohen Modal Haplotype dates back to the time of Moses and Aaron. If the Levites intermarried with other tribes over the next, say 1000-1500 years before Lehi, then this gene would also be found among all the tribes. It is a marker that dates much farther back than Lehi–it dates to Moses and Aaron, so it is likely to be found not just among the Levites, but among all the tribes of Israel.

]]> By: Pedro A. Olavarria http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/comment-page-1/#comment-2707 Pedro A. Olavarria Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:21:22 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=567#comment-2707 oh, and Mulek was a Jew. oh, and Mulek was a Jew.

]]> By: Pedro A. Olavarria http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/comment-page-1/#comment-2706 Pedro A. Olavarria Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:18:55 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=567#comment-2706 There in lays the problem. We don't know what Lehi, Sariah, Mulek or Ishmael's genes looked like. Did any of them carry CMH? Unless we have a real answer to that questian then we can't expect anything. All we know is that Lehi was a Mannesahite and Ishmael was an Ephraimite, thats it. Nice blog :-) There in lays the problem. We don’t know what Lehi, Sariah, Mulek or Ishmael’s genes looked like. Did any of them carry CMH? Unless we have a real answer to that questian then we can’t expect anything. All we know is that Lehi was a Mannesahite and Ishmael was an Ephraimite, thats it.

Nice blog :-)

]]> By: MH http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/comment-page-1/#comment-2686 MH Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:09:46 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=567#comment-2686 Pedro, the tribe of Levi was dispersed among all the tribes, so I would expect CMH among all the tribes. The CMH gene seems to indicate more than simply Tribe of Levi ancestry. Most of the Tribe of Judah has evidence of the Tribe of Levi as well, so the Tribe of Levi should have probably intermarried with many tribes, including Lehi's tribe of Joseph. Pedro, the tribe of Levi was dispersed among all the tribes, so I would expect CMH among all the tribes. The CMH gene seems to indicate more than simply Tribe of Levi ancestry. Most of the Tribe of Judah has evidence of the Tribe of Levi as well, so the Tribe of Levi should have probably intermarried with many tribes, including Lehi’s tribe of Joseph.

]]> By: Pedro A. Olavarria http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/comment-page-1/#comment-2681 Pedro A. Olavarria Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:33:43 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=567#comment-2681 Also, the Lemba lingered in Yemen for centuries. This would allow them to continue intermarrying with other Jews for a very long time, before making that final leap to Africa. Lehi and Co. made a strait shot to the New World which, with the exception of Mulek and whoever he brought(assuming he brought anyone),was a "Jew-less" land populated by Behring Straiters. Also, the Lemba lingered in Yemen for centuries. This would allow them to continue intermarrying with other Jews for a very long time, before making that final leap to Africa.
Lehi and Co. made a strait shot to the New World which, with the exception of Mulek and whoever he brought(assuming he brought anyone),was a “Jew-less” land populated by Behring Straiters.

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