Comments on: Women and the Melchizedek Priesthood http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/ Stuff they don't talk about in Sunday School Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:23:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: TruthoverTradition http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-13320 TruthoverTradition Sun, 01 Jan 2012 05:51:50 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=505#comment-13320 You have brought out the truth that women held the priesthood equal to men in the early "pure" years of the church prior to the fallibility (ego and "carnal desires" aka D&C 3:1-11) of men messed things up. Luckily, we are now in the midst of the prophesied cleansing! This was prior to the mess and "abomination" of polygamy (Jacob 2:23-35 and Jacob 3) no matter who practices it even the Biblical "men of old" like Abraham who gave us the consequence of his sins ("whoremongering") and lack of faith in God with the hatred of Hagar and Sarah and the Christian-hating Muslims. In actuality as revealed during a profound NDE preceded by a mother's three prophetic dreams and recorded in journals, women (and men) receive the power (priesthood) of God upon Baptism...It is just that simple without the elitism of ranks. Excitingly for this time of prophetic fulfillment (Isaiah's "shouting from the rooftops" aka the inspired internet), the truth is coming forth and the Prophetic Cleansing of the church (D&C 64, 112) continues with each blindly-obedient Mormon wakes up. I pride myself on being a true Mormon who is aware of the warnings of the Book of Mormon applies directly to the church. We can see the problems with King Joseph Smith who failed to become an apostle due to his ego and desire for control which correlates today with King Hinckley and now King Monson. We can also see how Joseph Smith fell as warned by God due to JS's "carnal desires" (D&C 3:1-11). Although we have been taught that all our leaders are perfect and next to God, Joseph Smith's uncontrolled "carnal desires" is a type and shadow of King David. However, you'll note in Quinn's "Origins of Power" pg 645-646 Joseph Smith repented of polygamy and Masonry which stems from Satan's requirement of Cain by taking a Satanic blood oath which continues in all LDS Temples as we (prior to 1990) slit our throats, cut out our hearts and intestines as ways to "suffer our lives to be taken" as we consecrate (blood oath) all of our time, talents and all that we do possess" with a Blood Atonement penalty if we told any of the SECRETS of the Temples. Secrets are not of God, nor are blood oaths required in all temples as "they come of evil" as Christ taught. D&C 124 states the condemnation of the church due to our "follies and abominations" (polygamy, Masonry, taking the priesthood away from women, Kingship, secrets, elitism/Zoramites/Rameumptum Tower snobbishness of LDS leaders and members. Exciting events are in store for those truthseekers and Mormon Heretics who care to know the truth! Thanks for your inspired Blog. You have brought out the truth that women held the priesthood equal to men in the early “pure” years of the church prior to the fallibility (ego and “carnal desires” aka D&C 3:1-11) of men messed things up. Luckily, we are now in the midst of the prophesied cleansing!

This was prior to the mess and “abomination” of polygamy (Jacob 2:23-35 and Jacob 3) no matter who practices it even the Biblical “men of old” like Abraham who gave us the consequence of his sins (“whoremongering”) and lack of faith in God with the hatred of Hagar and Sarah and the Christian-hating Muslims.

In actuality as revealed during a profound NDE preceded by a mother’s three prophetic dreams and recorded in journals, women (and men) receive the power (priesthood) of God upon Baptism…It is just that simple without the elitism of ranks.

Excitingly for this time of prophetic fulfillment (Isaiah’s “shouting from the rooftops” aka the inspired internet), the truth is coming forth and the Prophetic Cleansing of the church (D&C 64, 112) continues with each blindly-obedient Mormon wakes up.

I pride myself on being a true Mormon who is aware of the warnings of the Book of Mormon applies directly to the church.

We can see the problems with King Joseph Smith who failed to become an apostle due to his ego and desire for control which correlates today with King Hinckley and now King Monson.

We can also see how Joseph Smith fell as warned by God due to JS’s “carnal desires” (D&C 3:1-11). Although we have been taught that all our leaders are perfect and next to God, Joseph Smith’s uncontrolled “carnal desires” is a type and shadow of King David.

However, you’ll note in Quinn’s “Origins of Power” pg 645-646 Joseph Smith repented of polygamy and Masonry which stems from Satan’s requirement of Cain by taking a Satanic blood oath which continues in all LDS Temples as we (prior to 1990) slit our throats, cut out our hearts and intestines as ways to “suffer our lives to be taken” as we consecrate (blood oath) all of our time, talents and all that we do possess” with a Blood Atonement penalty if we told any of the SECRETS of the Temples.

Secrets are not of God, nor are blood oaths required in all temples as “they come of evil” as Christ taught.

D&C 124 states the condemnation of the church due to our “follies and abominations” (polygamy, Masonry, taking the priesthood away from women, Kingship, secrets, elitism/Zoramites/Rameumptum Tower snobbishness of LDS leaders and members.

Exciting events are in store for those truthseekers and Mormon Heretics who care to know the truth! Thanks for your inspired Blog.

]]> By: Woman in the Priesthood | Wheat and Tares http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-8660 Woman in the Priesthood | Wheat and Tares Sat, 11 Dec 2010 14:51:48 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=505#comment-8660 [...] from an LDS institutional perspective by Hawkgrrrl. Mormon Heretic has also written about the Melchizedek priesthood and women and about women ministers in early [...] [...] from an LDS institutional perspective by Hawkgrrrl. Mormon Heretic has also written about the Melchizedek priesthood and women and about women ministers in early [...]

]]> By: Bishop Rick http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-5874 Bishop Rick Fri, 21 May 2010 05:06:37 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=505#comment-5874 Women can hold the priesthood any time they want. Just hug and Elder. Women can hold the priesthood any time they want.
Just hug and Elder.

]]> By: Toni Jensen http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-5767 Toni Jensen Thu, 20 May 2010 00:46:29 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=505#comment-5767 Several LDS Members today are unaware that women once held the Priesthood. Several LDS Members today are unaware that women once held the Priesthood.

]]> By: FireTag http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-3739 FireTag Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:22:20 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=505#comment-3739 Fascinating organization, Reverend, that I'd never heard a word about. The wiki article indicates a very eclectic mix of Restoration traditions, which definitely arouses my curiosity. Fascinating organization, Reverend, that I’d never heard a word about. The wiki article indicates a very eclectic mix of Restoration traditions, which definitely arouses my curiosity.

]]> By: Mormon Heretic http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-3738 Mormon Heretic Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:54:26 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=505#comment-3738 Do you have a link or reference to these journals? Do you have a link or reference to these journals?

]]> By: Rev. Leanna Hamilton http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-3737 Rev. Leanna Hamilton Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:57:45 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=505#comment-3737 I enjoyed this post as well as the comments. I would like to share with you, while doing research in 1988 at the University of California Davis library I ran across a bit of information that pertains to this topic. In the "typeset" copy of President John Taylor's journals, Vol 2, you find an entry that refers to the "ordination" of Emma's councilors in the Relief Society. He states, paraphrasing, that he could not ordain her councilors to a higher office of priesthood than that to which Emma had previously been ordained, since Emma was the president of the society. At the time I was doing this study I had already been excommunicated for being a lesbian, so I had nothing to lose by studying Women and Priesthood. I was ordained on July 27, 1986, in the Restoration Church of Jesus Christ, which is a church founded in 1985 with a specific outreach to LGBT Mormons and others who felt disenfranchised from the LDS Church. I was blessed during my many years with RCJC, to exercise the priesthood authority I had been given. I was ordained an elder originally based on my previous experiences as a missionary and the offices I had held in my former ward and stake. I then had the greatest privileged to serve as the Presiding Bishop for six years, what amazing things deacons and teachers are ordained to perform. I served as a member of the Quorum of the Twelve for five years. Yes, I believe that women are given the priesthood when they receive the initiatory ordinances in the temple. While working in the LA temple back in the early '80's, my former partner asked the temple president how she could anoint women and pronounce such blessings without having been ordained and being single. She was told she had been given all the authority she needed. They did not discuss the issue at any other time. She was the youngest women to ever serve as an ordinance worker in the LA temple up to that time. I believe beyond a shadow of doubt that women who have received their initiatory ordinances hold priesthood authority, Melchizedek Priesthood. They have held it since the original endowments were given in the Kirtland Temple. LAH I enjoyed this post as well as the comments. I would like to share with you, while doing research in 1988 at the University of California Davis library I ran across a bit of information that pertains to this topic. In the “typeset” copy of President John Taylor’s journals, Vol 2, you find an entry that refers to the “ordination” of Emma’s councilors in the Relief Society. He states, paraphrasing, that he could not ordain her councilors to a higher office of priesthood than that to which Emma had previously been ordained, since Emma was the president of the society.
At the time I was doing this study I had already been excommunicated for being a lesbian, so I had nothing to lose by studying Women and Priesthood. I was ordained on July 27, 1986, in the Restoration Church of Jesus Christ, which is a church founded in 1985 with a specific outreach to LGBT Mormons and others who felt disenfranchised from the LDS Church.
I was blessed during my many years with RCJC, to exercise the priesthood authority I had been given. I was ordained an elder originally based on my previous experiences as a missionary and the offices I had held in my former ward and stake. I then had the greatest privileged to serve as the Presiding Bishop for six years, what amazing things deacons and teachers are ordained to perform. I served as a member of the Quorum of the Twelve for five years.
Yes, I believe that women are given the priesthood when they receive the initiatory ordinances in the temple. While working in the LA temple back in the early ’80′s, my former partner asked the temple president how she could anoint women and pronounce such blessings without having been ordained and being single. She was told she had been given all the authority she needed. They did not discuss the issue at any other time. She was the youngest women to ever serve as an ordinance worker in the LA temple up to that time.
I believe beyond a shadow of doubt that women who have received their initiatory ordinances hold priesthood authority, Melchizedek Priesthood. They have held it since the original endowments were given in the Kirtland Temple. LAH

]]> By: jfl_jr http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-2813 jfl_jr Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:41:29 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=505#comment-2813 Interesting, but I thought Melchizedek Priesthood was reserved exclusively for Jesus the Savior according to the Bible. http://www.noothergospel.com/Gospel%20&%20Priesthood.html http://www.noothergospel.com/index.html Interesting, but I thought Melchizedek Priesthood was reserved exclusively for Jesus the Savior according to the Bible.

http://www.noothergospel.com/Gospel%20&%20Priesthood.html

http://www.noothergospel.com/index.html

]]> By: MH http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-2106 MH Sun, 10 May 2009 23:16:52 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=505#comment-2106 I'm looking forward to it, and will be happy to add you to my sidebar. I’m looking forward to it, and will be happy to add you to my sidebar.

]]> By: FireTag http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/05/women-and-the-melchizedek-priesthood/comment-page-1/#comment-2105 FireTag Sun, 10 May 2009 20:23:24 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=505#comment-2105 MH: I at least understand the visual editor well enough to get posts up now, so I'll get that post on differences between the two largest Mormon denominations to you very soon. MH:

I at least understand the visual editor well enough to get posts up now, so I’ll get that post on differences between the two largest Mormon denominations to you very soon.

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