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	<title>Comments on: A Radically Different Book of Mormon Geography Theory</title>
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		<title>By: SamBee</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamBee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 09:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to nitpick, but I wish that Americans would realise that the Middle East has always been part of Asia. In fact, &quot;Asia&quot; originally referred to the main part of Turkey, aka Asia Minor. Israel is very much part of Asia (only just though).

We need to distinguish between East Asians (Orientals, Mongoloids) and West Asians (Semites, Iranians, Kurds etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to nitpick, but I wish that Americans would realise that the Middle East has always been part of Asia. In fact, &#8220;Asia&#8221; originally referred to the main part of Turkey, aka Asia Minor. Israel is very much part of Asia (only just though).</p>
<p>We need to distinguish between East Asians (Orientals, Mongoloids) and West Asians (Semites, Iranians, Kurds etc)</p>
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		<title>By: SORENSON, DNA, AND BOOK OF MORMON DIRECTIONS &#171; The Fire Still Burning</title>
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		<dc:creator>SORENSON, DNA, AND BOOK OF MORMON DIRECTIONS &#171; The Fire Still Burning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] questions about the geographic correlation for modern readers and makes many Mormons look for alternative locations  because that isthmus separates what we would consider &#8220;east&#8221; (Yucatan) from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] questions about the geographic correlation for modern readers and makes many Mormons look for alternative locations  because that isthmus separates what we would consider &#8220;east&#8221; (Yucatan) from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bishop Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bishop Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think the Malay theory is a perfect illustration of how easy it is to retrofit the BoM into different geographic locations. But, as has been pointed out in this discussion, all theories display problems with deep scrutiny. I do admit, however, that these theories are interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think the Malay theory is a perfect illustration of how easy it is to retrofit the BoM into different geographic locations. But, as has been pointed out in this discussion, all theories display problems with deep scrutiny. I do admit, however, that these theories are interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mormon Heretic</title>
		<link>http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/04/09/a-radically-different-book-of-mormon-geography-theory/comment-page-3/#comment-5395</link>
		<dc:creator>Mormon Heretic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have talked to Dr Olsen and told him that I think it would help his theory to find a linguist to make a stronger tie about place names.  But I&#039;m glad to hear you find the place names compelling.

It is possible that the Mulekites did not come to the Malay Peninsula by boat.  I did a post on the Lost 10 tribes (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/04/19/have-the-lost-10-tribes-been-found/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;click here to read it&lt;/a&gt;).  There&#039;s a really interesting video by a Jewish fellow named Simcha Jacobovici called &lt;i&gt;Quest for the Lost Tribes&lt;/i&gt;.  Simcha believes he has found the Tribe of Manasseh in Burma.  He believes the Assyrians/Babylonians purposely moved the Tribe of Manasseh to Burma.  If DNA evidence supports this claim, I think it would be a very interesting piece of independent evidence for Dr. Olsen.

I think you might also enjoy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post I did on the Lemba Tribe&lt;/a&gt; of Africa.  They have been able to trace their DNA back to Jewish roots.

There are some things I really like about this Malay theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have talked to Dr Olsen and told him that I think it would help his theory to find a linguist to make a stronger tie about place names.  But I&#8217;m glad to hear you find the place names compelling.</p>
<p>It is possible that the Mulekites did not come to the Malay Peninsula by boat.  I did a post on the Lost 10 tribes (<a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/04/19/have-the-lost-10-tribes-been-found/" rel="nofollow">click here to read it</a>).  There&#8217;s a really interesting video by a Jewish fellow named Simcha Jacobovici called <i>Quest for the Lost Tribes</i>.  Simcha believes he has found the Tribe of Manasseh in Burma.  He believes the Assyrians/Babylonians purposely moved the Tribe of Manasseh to Burma.  If DNA evidence supports this claim, I think it would be a very interesting piece of independent evidence for Dr. Olsen.</p>
<p>I think you might also enjoy <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/05/31/similarities-between-the-lemba-and-lehi/" rel="nofollow">this post I did on the Lemba Tribe</a> of Africa.  They have been able to trace their DNA back to Jewish roots.</p>
<p>There are some things I really like about this Malay theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Bleh Htoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bleh Htoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But most convincing in my mind is that the Malay Peninsula seems much more logistically probable. Its hard to understand how three different groups in time (Jaredite, Mulekites and Lehites) could all complete near impossible trans-oceanic journeys only to land at precisely the same point. 

If all three of those groups could find the same landing so easily without maps etc. then the answer should be much more evident to us. We should be looking for a more obvious solution, a location that would have been easily found by all three groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But most convincing in my mind is that the Malay Peninsula seems much more logistically probable. Its hard to understand how three different groups in time (Jaredite, Mulekites and Lehites) could all complete near impossible trans-oceanic journeys only to land at precisely the same point. </p>
<p>If all three of those groups could find the same landing so easily without maps etc. then the answer should be much more evident to us. We should be looking for a more obvious solution, a location that would have been easily found by all three groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Bleh Htoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bleh Htoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The names I mentioned are the same ones presented in Dr. Olson&#039;s Mala theory. I only added Teincun which I found on Google Maps at the same point Dr. Olson supposed Teancum would be.

I am not a linguist, so I can&#039;t provide much insight into your question. However, the names I mentioned (Teincun/Teancum, Manoron/Moron) would be Jaredite, a language we don&#039;t know much about. So it would be difficult to find linguistic connections.

Similar place names would be just a curious way to support the more evident cultural and geographical relationships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The names I mentioned are the same ones presented in Dr. Olson&#8217;s Mala theory. I only added Teincun which I found on Google Maps at the same point Dr. Olson supposed Teancum would be.</p>
<p>I am not a linguist, so I can&#8217;t provide much insight into your question. However, the names I mentioned (Teincun/Teancum, Manoron/Moron) would be Jaredite, a language we don&#8217;t know much about. So it would be difficult to find linguistic connections.</p>
<p>Similar place names would be just a curious way to support the more evident cultural and geographical relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: Mormon Heretic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mormon Heretic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beh Htoo, Thanks for stopping by.  I would be interested to know if the similarity of these words are due to coincidence, or if there are true language connections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beh Htoo, Thanks for stopping by.  I would be interested to know if the similarity of these words are due to coincidence, or if there are true language connections.</p>
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		<title>By: Bleh Htoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bleh Htoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am LDS in Thailand and found this idea worthy of a few hours of research. I did study the maps and find support for the Mala theory. In Burma you can find a city with the name Teincun (Teancum?). It is not far north of the modern-day city of Manoron (Moron?) and Maw hill (Ramah?) in the Lenya hills of Burma. You can see all these in Google maps.

But perhaps the most interesting parallels are with the local tribes that inhabit these hills. The Karen people claim that there was once a family of seven brothers in their land. This family later divided into three tribes which were led by three brothers. The older two brothers with darker skin represent the Karen people and the Burmese people respectively. The younger brother was somehow white. 

All seven brothers were given a golden book of life containing the wisdom of the God Y&#039;wa. The older brothers were preoccupied with mundane affairs and neglected the books, so the pale-skinned younger brother took the last golden book and sailed off to the West. The Karen people still wait for their fair-skinned younger brother to bring back the golden book. 

Many prophet cults such as the Lehkai based on these legends still thrive in these hills, and still await the return of the white brother and the golden book from the West. It is said that this event will restore prosperity and freedom to their land and will lead to the return of their savior Y&#039;wa.

I would say that these parallels merit consideration, especially when considering that the Mala Theory also resolves all Book of Mormon anachronisms (i.e. elephants, horses, chariots, metallurgy etc.) as well as DNA, linguistic and geographical inconsistencies. If all this was found anywhere in the Americas there would surely be interest. So why would we ignore it just because its all found in Burma?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am LDS in Thailand and found this idea worthy of a few hours of research. I did study the maps and find support for the Mala theory. In Burma you can find a city with the name Teincun (Teancum?). It is not far north of the modern-day city of Manoron (Moron?) and Maw hill (Ramah?) in the Lenya hills of Burma. You can see all these in Google maps.</p>
<p>But perhaps the most interesting parallels are with the local tribes that inhabit these hills. The Karen people claim that there was once a family of seven brothers in their land. This family later divided into three tribes which were led by three brothers. The older two brothers with darker skin represent the Karen people and the Burmese people respectively. The younger brother was somehow white. </p>
<p>All seven brothers were given a golden book of life containing the wisdom of the God Y&#8217;wa. The older brothers were preoccupied with mundane affairs and neglected the books, so the pale-skinned younger brother took the last golden book and sailed off to the West. The Karen people still wait for their fair-skinned younger brother to bring back the golden book. </p>
<p>Many prophet cults such as the Lehkai based on these legends still thrive in these hills, and still await the return of the white brother and the golden book from the West. It is said that this event will restore prosperity and freedom to their land and will lead to the return of their savior Y&#8217;wa.</p>
<p>I would say that these parallels merit consideration, especially when considering that the Mala Theory also resolves all Book of Mormon anachronisms (i.e. elephants, horses, chariots, metallurgy etc.) as well as DNA, linguistic and geographical inconsistencies. If all this was found anywhere in the Americas there would surely be interest. So why would we ignore it just because its all found in Burma?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you won&#039;t be disappointed. This is more of an interpretation of discoveries made than actual proof or facts. If I could find any archaeological discoveries to illustrate my ideas I would post them. Right now I just have the Book of Mormon and other sources of information to prove my point. Anyway, thanks for your interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you won&#8217;t be disappointed. This is more of an interpretation of discoveries made than actual proof or facts. If I could find any archaeological discoveries to illustrate my ideas I would post them. Right now I just have the Book of Mormon and other sources of information to prove my point. Anyway, thanks for your interest.</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy, I&#039;ll check your website out sometime.  However, I have to tell you that &quot;I believe&quot; isn&#039;t nearly as good as &quot;facts show....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, I&#8217;ll check your website out sometime.  However, I have to tell you that &#8220;I believe&#8221; isn&#8217;t nearly as good as &#8220;facts show&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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