Comments on: Shaken Faith Syndrome http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/ Stuff they don't talk about in Sunday School Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:23:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: whocares http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-13413 whocares Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:55:48 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=41#comment-13413 At the end of the day LDS as well as other religions believe and worship our heavenly father. It makes no difference who did what in the past, the church today does much good and our fellow brothers and sisters are pushing forward gods work. If prophets and leaders have lied or acted unsavoury that's between them and god. We look at our church and our fellow saints and see their good works. We follow church council regarding morals, ethics and word of wisdom and we are blessed because of it. One only has to look at the state of the world today to see proof of this. I am open minded but also a skeptical person by nature and after many years of entertaining anti Mormon literature I can honestly say its down to your personal testimony and faith in god as to what you want to believe. It really makes no difference, god will judge us on what we understood to be the truth and our actions towards our fellow man. Every church has a "colorful" past as do all matters when man is involved. Our politicians lie, our scientists lie....I put my faith in god., amen. At the end of the day LDS as well as other religions believe and worship our heavenly father. It makes no difference who did what in the past, the church today does much good and our fellow brothers and sisters are pushing forward gods work. If prophets and leaders have lied or acted unsavoury that’s between them and god.

We look at our church and our fellow saints and see their good works. We follow church council regarding morals, ethics and word of wisdom and we are blessed because of it. One only has to look at the state of the world today to see proof of this. I am open minded but also a skeptical person by nature and after many years of entertaining anti Mormon literature I can honestly say its down to your personal testimony and faith in god as to what you want to believe. It really makes no difference, god will judge us on what we understood to be the truth and our actions towards our fellow man.

Every church has a “colorful” past as do all matters when man is involved. Our politicians lie, our scientists lie….I put my faith in god., amen.

]]> By: Firm Believer http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-12143 Firm Believer Tue, 19 Jul 2011 05:34:37 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=41#comment-12143 <a href="#comment-523" rel="nofollow">@humanbeing </a> You sound very bitter and hateful. You condemn people for supposedly wanting to believe and having their logic bent. How do we know that YOUR logic is not bent in favor of not wanting to believe. There is extraordinary amounts of evidence favoring the claims of Joseph Smith that critics of the church (possibly including yourself) have taken great pains to ignore. Don't act so high and mighty and pretend that You have a monopoly on reality and logic. @humanbeing
You sound very bitter and hateful. You condemn people for supposedly wanting to believe and having their logic bent. How do we know that YOUR logic is not bent in favor of not wanting to believe. There is extraordinary amounts of evidence favoring the claims of Joseph Smith that critics of the church (possibly including yourself) have taken great pains to ignore. Don’t act so high and mighty and pretend that You have a monopoly on reality and logic.

]]> By: My 100th post — Mormon Heretic http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-1904 My 100th post — Mormon Heretic Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:21:45 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=41#comment-1904 [...] 8.       shaken faith syndrome [...] [...] 8.       shaken faith syndrome [...]

]]> By: MH http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-934 MH Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:31:43 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=41#comment-934 I'd definitely like to learn more about Pascal. I see some huge similarities between Galileo and BoM geography theories. I don't know if you've seen my other posts about BoM geography. I am greatly curious about the Malay Theory--that the BoM occurred in what is part of Malaysia. Scientifically, it seems to be a much better fit than the Americas (DNA, elephants, silks, etc). Of course, it doesn't jive real well with many things Joseph Smith said.... Check it out <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/01/25/book-of-mormon-geography/" rel="nofollow">here.</a> I’d definitely like to learn more about Pascal. I see some huge similarities between Galileo and BoM geography theories.

I don’t know if you’ve seen my other posts about BoM geography. I am greatly curious about the Malay Theory–that the BoM occurred in what is part of Malaysia. Scientifically, it seems to be a much better fit than the Americas (DNA, elephants, silks, etc). Of course, it doesn’t jive real well with many things Joseph Smith said…. Check it out here.

]]> By: Mike http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-932 Mike Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:23:00 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=41#comment-932 Christianity faced the reality that the earth moved around the sun. It could not be denied. Apologetics such as Pascal provided a way to find meaning again. The LDS played with Central America, and Thomas S. Ferguson realized that it was not the place. He lost his faith. FAIR, Maxwell Institute, etc continue to try to convince others of a false location for Book of Mormon Lands, and in the process, some have become apostate to previous teachings. It is absurd. There are classic writings outside of the LDS circles, Pascal is only one example. Faith cannot be built on ideas such as that the horse was really a tapir. Garbage only harms everyone. Christianity faced the reality that the earth moved around the sun. It could not be denied. Apologetics such as Pascal provided a way to find meaning again.

The LDS played with Central America, and Thomas S. Ferguson realized that it was not the place. He lost his faith.

FAIR, Maxwell Institute, etc continue to try to convince others of a false location for Book of Mormon Lands, and in the process, some have become apostate to previous teachings. It is absurd.

There are classic writings outside of the LDS circles, Pascal is only one example. Faith cannot be built on ideas such as that the horse was really a tapir. Garbage only harms everyone.

]]> By: MH http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-930 MH Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:13:07 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=41#comment-930 What is it about Blaise Pascal that you find so interesting? Are you saying that FAIR, Maxwell Institute, etc are complete garbage? What is it about Blaise Pascal that you find so interesting?

Are you saying that FAIR, Maxwell Institute, etc are complete garbage?

]]> By: Mike http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-927 Mike Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:20:15 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=41#comment-927 Money would be much better spent on the writings of Blaise Pascal, a Christian Apologetic, mathmatician, philospher and scientist, who lived long before the LDS Church began. At FAIRS and Neal A. Maxwell Institute you can find that what Joseph Smith said is not important, he was only a translator. Others will say that there is nothing in the Book of Mormon about the United States constitution. Also that writings of Joseph Fielding Smith do not matter. Mark E. Peterson and Marion G. Romney do not count either. Michael Ash would have you believe that what these groups tell you will give all of the answers. Such nonsense destroys more faith than his book can fix. Pascal's works are historical classics, and non-LDS. Money would be much better spent on the writings of Blaise Pascal, a Christian Apologetic, mathmatician, philospher and scientist, who lived long before the LDS Church began.

At FAIRS and Neal A. Maxwell Institute you can find that what Joseph Smith said is not important, he was only a translator. Others will say that there is nothing in the Book of Mormon about the United States constitution. Also that writings of Joseph Fielding Smith do not matter. Mark E. Peterson and Marion G. Romney do not count either.

Michael Ash would have you believe that what these groups tell you will give all of the answers. Such nonsense destroys more faith than his book can fix.

Pascal’s works are historical classics, and non-LDS.

]]> By: MH http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-534 MH Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:33:48 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=41#comment-534 I'd really be curious to hear what your mom has to say about the book. I’d really be curious to hear what your mom has to say about the book.

]]> By: humanbeing http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-531 humanbeing Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:55:11 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=41#comment-531 it's convincing no doubt. it’s convincing no doubt.

]]> By: humanbeing http://www.mormonheretic.org/2008/06/06/shaken-faith-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-530 humanbeing Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:54:15 +0000 http://www.mormonheretic.org/?p=41#comment-530 my mum has read it and she's told me about it and is a believer. you may not think i'm in any position to know but believe me, i already know what the book is like. and it's not cool. my mum has read it and she’s told me about it and is a believer. you may not think i’m in any position to know but believe me, i already know what the book is like. and it’s not cool.

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